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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 10:22 AM Original message |
Its a depressing thing to realize the entirety of our vision is increasing taxes on rich people. |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
1. Unfortunately, we can't do much of that good stuff |
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vets74 (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 02:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
62. Too simple. Too unaware of facts. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
2. Good point. We need to be talking about nationalizing the banking and oil industries, too |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 10:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. +1 |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 10:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
17. AND Big Pharma. n/t |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
61. I will happily second that notion! |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
66. And withdrawing from ALL the "Free Trade" Treaties, |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
3. It's |
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Wait Wut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 03:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
65. Very popular, and one I agree with. |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
4. Gotta walk before you can run |
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Autumn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
5. Our leadership sucks. |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
7. Depressing, true. Inaccurate also. n/t |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
8. The 1993 tax increase, what followed what the internet age... |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 10:38 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. The Internet age did come from a visionary government. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
9. Progressive taxes are a means. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
10. Bullshit and you know it |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
11. There can be other visions too, but we really need to raise taxes on the rich in order to fix things |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 11:35 AM Response to Reply #11 |
37. Well what are they? Are they aspirational in any way? |
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JohnnyRingo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
12. Actually, I think it's been whittled down to that.. |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
13. What is your grand plan?? |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 11:09 AM Response to Reply #13 |
26. Look to the future... |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 11:13 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. High tech, cost effective manufacturing does not create jobs. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 11:19 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. How so? |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #30 |
41. As productivity increases, the amount of work decreases. |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 11:25 AM Response to Reply #26 |
34. All good ideas |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 11:28 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Spend money to save money. That is different from spending money that is poof gone. |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 11:48 AM Response to Reply #36 |
42. I agree but you fail to realize that the republicans |
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Sheepshank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
14. no not really. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #14 |
33. Okay what is the vision then? |
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saras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
16. It fits Maslow's heirarchy of needs, too. Survival first. |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
18. How, uninspiring. |
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Bonhomme Richard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
19. The greatest spark for entrepreneurship would be single payer health care. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 11:27 AM Response to Reply #19 |
35. True. I am for single payer. Health care costs are an anvil weighing us down. |
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Bonhomme Richard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 12:38 PM Response to Reply #35 |
46. I would have never taken the risk to start my company if.... |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
20. Depressing? Yes. |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
21. well, get a better vision |
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Major Nikon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
22. Strawman tripe |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
23. Or, our economy is gauged on a little white phone, and it's redesign every six months. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 11:15 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. I think it's pretty amazing myself. |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 12:32 PM Response to Reply #29 |
44. Indeed! |
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global1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
24. So - Do You Have Any Ideas For New Industries We Can Create?.....nt |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
25. "Our"??? I find it annoying that your constant RW talking points seem to go unnoticed. nt |
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RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 11:14 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. +1. I know. |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 11:19 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Seconded. It's always the same from this poster. n/t |
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NoGOPZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 01:17 PM Response to Reply #25 |
51. . |
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demmiblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #25 |
53. They don't go unnoticed in the least. n/t |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 03:42 PM Response to Reply #25 |
68. Exactly. Thank you. nt |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 01:22 AM Response to Reply #25 |
76. Constant indeed, and very much noticed, rest assured. |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 01:49 AM Response to Reply #25 |
78. You aren't the only one. |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
32. Go work on a progressive candidate's campaign. |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
38. Excellent point. And at a time when we need new ideas to deal with |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
39. Spoken like a true corporatist. K&R |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
40. The expression, "put your money where your mouth is" means money talks - |
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dtexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
43. It's not the entirety of the vision -- but it is a keystone. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
45. This poster regularly argues for cutting Social Security and Medicare. |
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RandiFan1290 (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 01:32 PM Response to Reply #45 |
60. Don't forget |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 12:53 AM Response to Reply #60 |
70. Nope...get rid of them all. I am already assuming it will be done. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
47. That is not my vision at all. My vision rests on taking over this economic |
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LiberalEsto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
48. Bull! |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
49. How can a diagnosis of a painless solution be depressing? |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 01:13 AM Response to Reply #49 |
75. I don't think taxing the rich will do much in and of itself. |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 10:09 AM Response to Reply #75 |
81. See, it's all abstract to you |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 11:58 AM Response to Reply #81 |
82. That isn't part of any plans I've heard. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
50. You worry about inflation. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 12:58 AM Response to Reply #50 |
71. I'm assuming both will happen. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
52. "Our leadership" are slaves to capitalism and the status quo. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
54. Yep. We should do that AND cut the military budget 50%, legalize & tax pot, |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
55. Your entire schtick is playing Devil's Advocate, right? |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 01:32 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. I rarely agree with this person, but in this case, they have a point. |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 04:21 AM Response to Reply #59 |
80. repairing our crumbling infrastructure is paying down the deficit and not investing in the economy? |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
56. Pity the rich..... |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
57. The entirety of the right-wing's vision is to cut taxes. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 01:01 AM Response to Reply #57 |
73. Yup. No vision on their side either. Kind of my point really. |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
58. Raising taxes on the rich without spending on decreasing poverty |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
63. "our" my ass |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
64. Not even close, but keep trying I'm sure someone is buying! |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
67. The entirity of WHOSE vision? |
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War Horse (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
69. The U.S. used to lead the way in science and R&D, true |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
72. that would probably be less depressing |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 01:08 AM Response to Reply #72 |
74. I want to go back to Clinton rates when the system actually worked. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 01:33 AM Response to Reply #74 |
77. well you are half right |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-11 01:54 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. They also raised the Medicare tax on the top earners in the ACA. |
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