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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:34 AM
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Mr President..Why haven't you prosecuted anybody on Wall Street.....Jake Tapper ABC News
Edited on Thu Oct-06-11 10:35 AM by rsmith6621

In response to OWS movement.

...Obama's Response.......Because they did not necessarily do ANYTHING WRONG????..... WTF!!!
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:35 AM
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1. Poor word choice - "against the law" would have been more accurate.
Just because it is legal, it doesn't mean it isn't wrong.

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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:36 AM
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what makes you think that was his choice of words?

surely you don't think the words you just read were actually verbatim from Obama?


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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:38 AM
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15. I didn't have a reason to believe they were not. Still, that would be a poor choice of words,
whether he actually used them or not.

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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:37 AM
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7. The OP totally misquoted the president. nt
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:41 AM
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20. I missed that question. What exactly DID he say?
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:43 AM
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23. See response #3. nt
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 11:30 AM
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38. Gee!
Surprise, surprise! The president misquoted on this site? How could that possibly happen? :sarcasm:

:grr:
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young but wise Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:38 AM
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13. Only thing is that's not what he said.
The OP colors is showing.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:40 AM
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17. As has been noted.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:35 AM
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2. change we can believe in, huh?
:eyes:
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:36 AM
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3. That's not what he said. He said they didn't necessarily do anything
"ILLEGAL." Big difference. He then went on to say that they may have done things that were immoral and inappropriate. Get it right, next time. :eyes:
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:41 AM
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18. Talk about dumbing down....
Knee-jerk headline, K&R!!!11! Fuck yeah!11! Change**#11!!!

It's getting embarrassing....
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:44 AM
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24. smoke and mirrors....
You know as well as I do that if Obama had the political will and the cajones to take Wall Street bankers on he'd be able to find plenty of illegality to hang on them. One can't do business or cross the street in the U.S. any longer without pushing the envelope on one law or another.
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:44 AM
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25. But some attorneys general certainly seem to think there is evidence of fraud --
-- in the mortgage business in particular.

They did do things that were illegal.

So that was just a dodge. I'm not so sure if those other things were still illegal if that would have changed the outcome much, because I don't think those guys care particularly much about what is legal.

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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 11:12 AM
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37. Eric Holder is working on that
It will go away soon.
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 01:26 PM
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47. But why?
Can you tell me that? If I understand you correctly, you mean to stop the other AGs from investigating the banks? To look for offenses that can be prosecuted?

I went to the library and got the book 13 Bankers: The Wall Street Takeover and the Next Financial Meltdown, by Simon Johnson and James Kwak. Just started it. The authors are describing the forces that have taken over, and how the banks got in trouble, were too big to fail, some failed, some got bailed out, and now they're even bigger than they were before. They would have to be. All of the clients of Merrill Lynch had to go somewhere.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 11:44 AM
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42. Not "necessarily". And as long as we don't investigate it, we don't have to "know".
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David Sky Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 12:24 PM
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46. Thanks! I so hate it when people misquote for their own agenda! n/t
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:36 AM
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4. Because it was NOT against the law.
Dodd-Frank was to make it against the law.

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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 11:49 AM
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43. How do we know they did nothing illegal? We haven't launched ANY investigations..
Why not I would ask....:shrug:
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young but wise Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:36 AM
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5. K&U
That's not what he said.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:36 AM
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6. You have to level specific charges against specific individuals for specific crimes first.
Not sure why people don't get that.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:45 AM
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27. first you have to investigate....
Where's the result of that investigation?
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banned from Kos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:55 AM
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31. first you need a statute that you think has been violated.
Like it or not, toxic loans were legal. Option ARMs, 140% LTV, etc.

CDS were and ARE legal.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 11:34 AM
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39. Maybe because the don't want to?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:37 AM
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8. He said it wasn't necessarily ILLEGAL, but it was IMMORAL. WTF
don't you get it right?
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:37 AM
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9. That's right people. Technically what they did and sold was legal. Bush deregulation
allowed these derivatives to come into play. We don't like it, but it is the facts. Obama is not going to waste money when there is nothing to charge them with.
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HappyMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:37 AM
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10. False!
Not at all what he said.
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DFab420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:37 AM
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11. K&U misquoting the President is kind of a dirty trick.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:38 AM
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16. Maybe the OP thinks he/she is the only person watching the conf..
and they can pass off anything on the rest of us. :eyes:
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DFab420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:41 AM
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19. Anything to feed the poutrage machine I suppose..
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:42 AM
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21. The president is doing a fantastic job and of course many will feel
the need to piss on him no matter what. Typical.
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YellowCosmicSun Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:38 AM
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12. I guess you would be happier if Obama painted with a broad brush, huh?
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banned from Kos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:38 AM
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14. UnRec for deliberate misquote n/t
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:43 AM
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22. He said they didn't 'break the law', they acted badly but that isn't illegal.

Change the laws and make it illegal.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:45 AM
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26. because a lot of the heinous shit they get away with is, unfortunately, legal?
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:46 AM
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28. And his answer was on point! Not everything that's "immoral" is "illegal".
;)
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:50 AM
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29. That needs to get picked up on by OWS, it's not Obama's fault
it's about deregulation that is thanks to the GOP primarily and Bush especially
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 11:00 AM
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33. And they've already promised to repeal Dodd-Frank. Just wanting to see a "perp walk"...
isn't a policy. Someone has to investigate, and prove that laws were actually broken, and I'm assuming the Justice Dept didn't see a case? :shrug:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:51 AM
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30. The answer matters little really... the fact that the question was asked
is very significant.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 11:00 AM
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35. Really? Tapper will be pleased to know that you believe his questions
Edited on Thu Oct-06-11 11:03 AM by Kahuna
are significant. At least somebody thinks so.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 11:39 AM
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40. The answer matters a great deal.
Or do you want the president to waste money and credibility by prosecuting legal acts....?
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 11:50 AM
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44. Good point.
Wall Street fraud is very much on the public mind nowadays, and all the usual bullshit has not swept it under the rug.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 10:59 AM
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32. That's not what he said. At ALL! He said there were no laws against what they did.
And he talked about how he was trying to change the laws -- including the consumer protection agency laws and Dodd-Frank that Republicans want to repeal.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 11:00 AM
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34. Even more cynical than the media that covers him.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 11:03 AM
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36. Separation of powers is one answer.
I don't want the US to be like Russia where people are prosecuted because the President doesn't like them, or to boost the President's popularity.

The other answer is that extreme greed and gross stupidity are not necessarily criminal offences. Or at least not criminality that can be proved beyond a reasonable doubt.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 11:42 AM
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41. thats not what he fucking said.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 12:08 PM
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45. Thieves are fine. It is tey gay that gets his God Mix roiling
The only right and wrong he cares about is how wrong he thinks it is to be gay.
Obama to the Banksters as the crisis fell:
"My administration is the only thing between you and the pitchforks."
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