The Real GOP Nominee.

[Firebrand Gary]

It's become clear that the GOP has a highly strategic plan to keep the nomination from Romney. We hear that some of these 501c groups are promoting "Stop Romney," the crazies are coming out and declaring his religion a cult (which Imo is true) and we have not even hit the ad phase, which is going to be a blood bath.

Unless the vast majority of donors break for Romney right now (which you are not hearing much about) then I think its fare to say that Romney will NOT be the nominee.

Here's why

I think this is part of the GOP's strategy all along. Let the caucus eat itself until someone who is electable in the General emerges. By this I mean someone who is still standing in the primaries or a politician who has been staying exposed and waiting in the wings all along.

Huckabee or a reappearance of Pawlenty. Those are my guesses.

[arcane1]

1. "someone who is still standing in the primaries" is how they ended up with McCain

Remember when it was guaranteed that Guliani would be the nominee? And Huckabee? Thompson?

[cliffordu]

2. Or Jeb. Mark my words, the spectre of another Bush has not gone away.

[Andy823]

5. I don't think Jeb will run

He, like any republican who "really" has any chance at all getting into the WH, will wait till 2016 instead of jumping into the "circus" they have now. My opinion anyway.

[AndyTiedye]

9. NOT ANOTHER ONE! NOOOOO!

[customerserviceguy]

11. Jeb has the same immigration problem that Perry has

The tea partiers don't like anyone who is 'soft' on illegal immigration. The fundies only like it, if the immigrants turn snake-handler, but since most are incurably Catholic, they don't have immigration reform as a priority. The country clubbers like having the status quo, which keeps cheap laborers for their farms, ranches, restaurants, and hotels.

[Andy823]

3. Actually

There isn't anyone in the race that is electable, and that goes for Huckabee and Pawlenty! Anyone who has a chance at all for the republicans will be waiting till 2016 and not jumping into this circus and making themselves part of the gang of "clowns" they have running right now. I think they pretty much know they don't have anyone who can win, just like back in 2008. I think Romney will be the nominee, and he will lose, period. I also think Perry is a joke, and that his "skeletons" will keep on coming out to end his run, leaving only Romney as no one "CLOWN"!

[Tesha]

15. I'm not sure you're keeping up; the latest polls in New Hampshire have Romney defeating Obama...

...by 8 points! Ron Paul is only 4 points behind Obama.

Everyone else in the Republican race is in the dust.

Romney will win the NH primary easily; if he does at
all well in the other early-primary states, he *WILL*
be the Republican nominee and odds are he *WILL* win
the General Election.

Obama has told too many of his supporting groups to
take a hike; at this point, his fate is almost sealed
and he did it all to himself.

Tesha

[cliffordu]

16. lol. Yet another nice try (tm)

[Tesha]

18. Laugh all you like; dems da facts. (NT)

[in_cog_ni_to]

4. It's Jeb. n/t

[RC]

7. By 2016 we will all have forgotten how crooked Jeb is.

He will look good compared to the certified loons running now.

May one or more of the deities help us.
We can touch bottom now, but just wait, the shit is gonna be getting deeper.

[Angry Dragon]

6. t-paw is a very weak joke

could not get much above 1% if that
no backing
he is only great in his own mind

I do not know much about huckabee but I have heard he carries too much baggage

romney right now is their best bet

the 7-8 left are just weak posers

[ZombieHorde]

8. Mormonism was a cult when it was first established because it contained

new revelations, and had a small membership. Now that Mormons have a large following, I am not sure they still qualify as a cult. A sociologist that studies alternative religions should have an answer for that.

All religions begin as cults. Cults have either new revelation, or a new combination of old revelations; e.g., Jewish mysticism plus Hinduism. Combination cults are usually called new age movements.

One of the most notorious cults, The People's Temple, started as a liberal church, but once Jim Jones started receiving new revelations, it became a cult. Suicide/death cults are extremely rare, there have only been a few of them in modern history; I think The People's Temple and Heaven's Gate are the only two in US history for a really long time, and there are tons of religious cults. I live in a town in Montana, and we have a few religious cults. Major cities probably have dozens of them.

[customerserviceguy]

12. One man's cult is another man's true religion

Is it merely the number of adherents that makes this distinction without a difference?

Also, be sure to include the Branch Davidians in your list of modern suicide/death cults.

[ZombieHorde]

20. Cults are small, and have something reletively new.

If they don't have anything new, then the cult is a sect. So if a group of Catholics became disenchanted with the Vatican, and started their own church using only the Christian Holy Bible, they would be a sect. If they started using the teachings of Buddha as well, they would be a cult, because they created their own hybrid religion. Alternatively, if one of the members received new revelation, and the sect went with it, then sect would become a cult. Some sociologists are now using the term "alternative religion" instead of cult, since the word cult has negative connotations now.

The Branch Davidians were a cult, and David Koresh was a scary guy, but I don't know if suicide was part of their normal thinking, or if it spontaneously developed when they were confronted by the Government. They might have been thinking about it; I have never studied the Branch Davidians. I don't know much about them.

The People's Temple were doing mass suicide drills before they actually did it, and Heaven's Gate was contemplating suicide for years; they even told new recruits they were thinking of mass suicide.

[bouwob2]

10. no big surprize there

They already drove Pawlenty out (not crazy enough).
cain has no chance since hes black
huntsman has no chance because hes also mormon and not crazy enough.

Its a tough party to be in

[customerserviceguy]

13. While I think that Paws and Hucksterbee are history

you do make an interesting point. I think it's perfectly possible for a dark horse candidate to emerge from the Rethug convention if neither Romney, nor Perry, nor Cain have a locked-up first ballot victory. If I had to bet on one of the three being able to do that, it would be Romney, but only if you forced me at gunpoint. The country-clubber establishment Republicons have a LOT of convincing to do to get the tea partiers to go along, and the fundies will never ever vote for a Mormon, in either the primaries, at the convention, or even in the general election.

I do see that a lot of the donors who were waiting for Christie are now giving financial backing to Romney, that is the only thing that will push him over the top, if that's possible.

[SkatmanRoth]

14. How old is Dan Quayle?

Maybe the lucky potato can be drafted.

[krabigirl]

17. i think it's Obama.

[TNLib]

19. +1

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