***** Official LIVE BLOG House = Tax Cuts Debate *****

[L. Coyote]

Currently, a failing motion to adjourn has intervened in the debate.

http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN.aspx

I am in and out this morning, but wanted to at least post the thread.

Links and more here, in three Senate threads beginning with Bernie's filibuster:

***** Official LIVE BLOG Senate = Tax Cuts Debate III *****
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x8518

AND, for your entertainment:

Barack Obama's Christmas Card online
http://www.dancingsantacard.com/en/?santa=279789

[L. Coyote]

1. Motion to adjourn fails 381-14

This should begin soon, I think.

[L. Coyote]

2. Meanwhile VIDEO: Reps. Rush Holt and Raúl Grijalva on Opposition to Obama’s Tax Deal

Reps. Rush Holt and Raúl Grijalva on House Democratic Opposition to Obama’s Tax Deal with GOP
Tax-cuts

The U.S. House of Representatives is set to vote on President Obama’s controversial tax deal with Republicans following its approval in the U.S. Senate. While taxes on the wealthy will decrease under the proposal, some tax experts are predicting taxes on the poor will actually increase. We speak to Democratic Congressmembers Rush Holt of New Jersey and Raúl Grijalva of Arizona, who say they will vote against the deal.

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/12/16/reps_rush_holt_and_raul_grijalva

[L. Coyote]

3. Members were discussing the rules for debate, and that is about to restart, vote to follow

[L. Coyote]

4. 6,600 individuals would get the estate tax benefit = Rep. Lynch (D-MA)

We will exceed the legal debt limit next year if this passes

[L. Coyote]

5. Rep. Pence (R-IN) cannot support this measure because the tax breaks are NOT permanent

Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez

[L. Coyote]

6. Rep. Jackson Lee "not class warfare" ... "working people need help"

Estate tax blurs the understanding of America

25-28 billion giveaway would take from education, is a crime .....

Fight for everybody, not just a few millionaires

[AlabamaLibrul]

7. Joe "BP" Barton (R-TX) "We don't have to make this compromise" (will have power in Jan)

[L. Coyote]

8. OK, they are back, Nadler up now discussing Social Security = "MUST OPPOSE this bill"

Just got back to my PC after running out for chores.

Not sure if they are arguing the rule still, buit it seems so.

[AlabamaLibrul]

9. Yes, they are still arguing the rule

end of transmission

[Judi Lynn]

10. Thanks for the reminder. Just saw your post, tuned in. I appreciate this. n/t

[L. Coyote]

11. DeFazio up now, on creating real jobs, not money from China to buy from China!

Here we get out the credit card and blow a trillion, including consuming the social security trust fund.

[L. Coyote]

12. DeFazio ... "Should not be a take-it-or-leave-it deal dictated by the minority leader"

[rhett o rick]

13. Thank you for this thread. rec. nm

[L. Coyote]

14. Fifteen minute vote on the rule. Liberals revolted so they could vote on estate tax

language. This gives an opportunity to oppose parts of the bill.

Vote now is on the changes to the rule. If approved the debate begins, then a vote on the Pomeroy amendment, if that passes they move on to vote on the bill and send it to the senate for Senate approval. If the Pomeroy amendment goes down, they move to vote on the Senate version.

[L. Coyote]

15. Anyone know the provisions of the pomeropy amendment. He represents farmers

so I wonder what goes on with it.

[L. Coyote]

16. Replaying debate on the rule as the vote proceeds.

[L. Coyote]

17. THREE HOURS of debate now begins, except that there is now a procedural inquiry.

At least so it seems. This is getting confusing.

[L. Coyote]

18. It seems all time has been alotted to two sides, both in favor of the bill. ????

[L. Coyote]

19. AMENDMENT DEBATE: Levin = Average tax cut of 1.5 million to a fraction of the people.

Make the Republicans vote on the amended version, without 1.5 million tax cuts for a few.

[L. Coyote]

20. Ongoing. Pomeroy amendment will reduce tax cuts for the richest

I'm just back after some work. Anyone know the details of the Pomeroy amendment.

[L. Coyote]

21. PASSES! See DU Latest Breaking News here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4662628