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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 10:31 AM
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Herman Cain: Tax Poor People’s Food To Finance Massive Tax Break For The Rich
Herman Cain: Tax Poor People’s Food To Finance Massive Tax Break For The Rich

The centerpiece of former pizza czar Herman Cain’s presidential campaign is his “999″ plan, which would slash taxes on the wealthy, drive up deficits to the worst point since World War II, and force low-income Americans to pay a massive nine times their current tax rate. In an interview this morning with CNN’s Candy Crowley, Cain even said food and clothing would not be exempt from the 9 percent national sales tax he would put in place if elected president. Indeed, he said it would be “fair” for a poor person to pay as much in sales taxes as Crowley does:

CROWLEY: Is there any exception, as you see it, in this consumption tax? Except for clothing, perhaps? Except for food?

CAIN: Nope, you don’t have to do that. Nope, you don’t have to do that.

CROWLEY: So a poor person is paying the same amount of taxes on groceries as I am? Does that sound fair to you, just in a vacuum?

CAIN: Yes, it does sound fair because of the other point I’m about to make. If they need to buy a car or a home or some hard goods that are used, they pay no taxes.

Watch it:
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/10/09/339783/herman-cain-tax-food/
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 10:41 AM
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1. Face Palm
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 10:55 AM
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2. This is actually what they stand for.
Edited on Sun Oct-09-11 11:04 AM by Skink
The nomination should be his.
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Cool Logic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 11:07 AM
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3. I haven't had the time or inclination to review Cain's 999 plan; however...
there must be a better way than the 71,684 pages of US Tax Code that we struggle with year after year.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 02:44 PM
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18. Most of which is written for, by, and in the interest of Big Business and special interests.
The right wing uses that as a talking point, trying to say "It's too difficult to understand!" as most working people seldom file more than four pages of income tax documents.

GE, for example, has no problems understanding the lines of tax code that pertains only to GE when written, and using it to their advantage.
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Cool Logic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 03:01 PM
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19. Indeed...and most likely written by a former legislator in an office on K-Street.
Regrettably, many believe that the fedgov created a 71,684 page tax code and 134,723 pages of fedregs to "hold business at bay."

That is the sort naiveté makes my head spin.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 11:10 AM
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4. There's your naked RepublicOnomics right there in a NUTshell
disgustipatingly unAmerican.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 11:13 AM
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5. Repukes want


a "Krystchyun Nashun" as long as their "Kryste" doesn't give a fuck about the poor, the sick, the young or the old.

Cain's ideas will fly as high with the hungry voters as a lead balloon.

(Note to self: PLEASE hope that Cain is the nominee :))
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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 11:16 AM
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6. Cain is a ringer.
and for all the wrong reasons.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 11:18 AM
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7. Yep, that is pretty much his "999" plan. nt
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 11:18 AM
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8. How about a foot in mouth tax for him.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 11:25 AM
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9. Alot of people will support this out of ignorance
They hear what he says and they think " fair". What they fail to do is look at the big picture and realize that the poorer you are the more of your income you spend just to survive or try to survive. The rich will never spend the same percentage of their incomes and therefore never really pay their fair share.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 11:54 AM
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10. "If they need to buy a car or a home or some hard goods that are used, they pay no taxes."
Edited on Sun Oct-09-11 11:54 AM by kestrel91316
If they have to pay taxes on groceries, they will never save up enough to buy a car, let alone a home. Of course, Mr. Cain knows full well this is the case.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 11:56 AM
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11. WHAT? we poor do not have to pay taxes on cars, homes and hard goods?
Since when?
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 12:46 PM
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13. only after you rise up and elected Herman Cain
duh.

And this will be a real help to the poor, because most poor people buy a new car every month and a new home probably twice a year.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 01:31 PM
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15. Or in my case never. I have never owned a house and I do not own
a car.
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Shandris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 03:23 PM
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21. Which is exactly the point.
Poor people seldom buy 'hard goods'. But RICH motherfuckers can buy all the jets and yachts they want. I mean...those 'hard goods' will have no tax now!

This bastard is more vile than many I've seen recently...and people are actually CONSIDERING this? What a world.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 12:03 PM
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12. So there you have it. Buy everything used, or via underground black markets.
I'm really failing to see how Cain's simplistic plan helps at all.
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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 01:11 PM
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14. I'd rather call up another 999 "plan" than Herman Cain's plan.
Call 999 in England and you can be asked for what service you need: police, fire, ambulance or coast guard...

IMO Mr. Cain's idea appears to need assistance from the ambulance service - and admitted for a psychological evaluation or two. This plan is just plain crazy.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 01:32 PM
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16. Thank you Mr. Cain for helping make it so very easy.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 01:55 PM
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17. Really? Tax consumption? Isn't the problem with the economy the lack of consumer demand?
This will destroy it.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 03:19 PM
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20. Well, considering his base, he couldn't very well call it the "666 Plan"
That would TRULY be the "mark of Cain," if they were paying attention.
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