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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:40 AM Original message |
OWS is great, but where were they in 2010? Or during the TeaBag Summer? Or during BirtherGate? And, |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
1. Where were you? (nt) |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. So glad you asked. I was writing LTE's, donating, phonebanking, organizing, and canvassing BIGTIME. |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:47 AM Response to Reply #5 |
17. Many in OWS were probably doing the same things. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:51 AM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Thanks. And GLAD it is finally happening. But it is a lesson in timing. Needed earlier and WITH |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:51 AM Response to Reply #17 |
26. or were just starting to get informed through things like lttes, phonecalls, etc. |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:53 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Point taken nt |
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piratefish08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 11:58 AM Response to Reply #5 |
57. did it work? |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 01:50 PM Response to Reply #57 |
76. It worked partially. Some progressives and moderates were saved that would have |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 11:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
93. Where? ----- this is the LEFT which Obama threw under the bus -- |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
2. like most of us, they gave the dems a chance to do what they were suppose to do.... nt |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:43 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. +1000 nt |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:45 AM Response to Reply #2 |
11. The LARGEST amount of PROGRESSIVE legislation since LBJ if not FDR. Indisputable. Need a list? |
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MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:55 AM Response to Reply #11 |
32. Depends on how you define "progressive" doesn't it? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 11:12 PM Response to Reply #32 |
91. +1000% --- |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-11 05:15 AM Response to Reply #32 |
104. That's the truth. Obama has yet to pass a single piece of progressive legislation. Progressive |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #11 |
50. no i do not need a list. i am well informed. i like obama, and can easily vote again |
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Mr Deltoid (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
67. More tax cuts than Bush |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 01:56 PM Response to Reply #67 |
77. Tax cuts that were aimed at helping the middle class for once. At least get part of it right. nt |
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Mr Deltoid (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-11 12:19 AM Response to Reply #77 |
100. Tax cuts have ruined the economy. I dont buy into Reaganomics. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 02:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
80. No, teabaggers got out 9% more votes than we did, if we actually got the vote out... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. they also got the ok from supreme court to put corporate funds into the election |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. I would agree with that if the voter turnout in 2010 was a lot higher than 2006, but it wasn't. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 08:32 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. or if the continual constant ad blitz of neg campaigned convinced a lot fo the regular voters |
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Mr Deltoid (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-11 12:22 AM Response to Reply #86 |
101. The youth vote did not materialize as it did in 08 |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-11 05:00 AM Response to Reply #86 |
103. I don't think the ad campaigns did it, I think the youth sat home because progressives... |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
4. Personally I think their timing is perfect. Nt |
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CarmanK (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:50 AM Original message |
I agree, in time for the 2012 election. We need to rally the troops! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
90. "Don’t Mistake Occupy Wall Street for Team Obama - Occupation up, Obama Down" -- |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 11:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
89. +1000% --- |
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Harmony Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
6. Democrats showed up in 2010 |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
78. I agree. Independents want people that will fight. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-11 05:28 AM Response to Reply #78 |
106. The problem is that Obama had the chance to fight, and he chose not to. During the last |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
84. That's not true, the teabaggers got out 9% more votes than we did. If you take that into account... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
7. Doesn't matter |
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Harmony Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #7 |
38. Then you don't understand that protests are part of a democracy |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Standing around in the street will do nothing |
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Harmony Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
59. I highly recommend you pick up a history |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
8. Where were you, RB? Indeed, where are you today that you'd have to ask? |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:48 AM Response to Reply #8 |
18. Heading up local effort for upcoming elections to actually make some progress happen. You? |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:53 AM Response to Reply #18 |
30. Just yesterday planted a bunch of campaign signs for the local County Commissioner. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
9. You support OWS |
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NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:47 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Back back back, that homerun ain't coming back. It's a grand slam outta the park |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:55 AM Response to Reply #9 |
31. The fear I have about OWS is they'll discourage voting democratic |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:58 AM Response to Reply #31 |
40. The 'Dems' have no one but themselves to blame for electoral losses. |
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SaveOurDemocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 12:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
60. Nailed it! n/t |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 11:49 PM Response to Reply #9 |
98. +1 This ain't our first DU rodeo. |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
10. dumb post worst of the month ! |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:47 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. The dumb are those who say something is dumb but can not offer a real answer. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
12. which one? |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
13. You don't seem to get that they are us. You, me and 99% of the people |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
15. People were too bamboozled by Obama's BS "hope-change" message and his charisma. |
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Frances (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
19. If these protestors had come out BEFORE |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
20. Our letters and calls gave them courage to act now. |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
21. For someone that supports OWS, you sure create a lot of hand-wringing posts |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. True, that. |
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Harmony Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 12:11 PM Response to Reply #21 |
61. Actually |
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MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
22. It's pretty clear you DON'T support OWS |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:56 AM Response to Reply #22 |
33. Nice try but swung and missed. These are fair questions. Open-minded progressives should welcome the |
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MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #33 |
43. You DESPERATELY want it not to exist! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 11:31 PM Response to Reply #33 |
94. The "action plan" is anti-corporate fascism .... which effects everything --- |
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PETRUS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
25. The issue-oriented protests of the last 40 years... |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 02:36 PM Response to Reply #25 |
79. The last 2 paragraphs are important |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 11:46 PM Response to Reply #79 |
97. Unfortunately ..... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 11:44 PM Response to Reply #25 |
96. Agree -- and to suggest that predatory capitalism and corporate/fascism create ONE problem .... |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
27. As with any serious movement, the Left had to kicked over and |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
29. Another conservative dem concern trolling Occupy. Did a memo go out last night? |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #29 |
35. They sure are ... |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #29 |
75. DU is INFESTED with DLC trolls. One certain one with one-liner OPs, especially, pisses me off. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
34. They aren't progressives at heart but progressives by circumstances. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #34 |
71. Bullshit. |
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Rabblevox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
36. FAIL. That's like asking where the revolutionaries were in 1773. Or where the Egyptians were in... |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
37. If you have to admonish DUers not to misinterpret your OP, then remind them again later, |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
39. You can help us or you can get the hell out of the way - your choice. nt |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
41. Fighting off foreclosure or working 3 jobs maybe? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
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Wind Dancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
45. Oh brother! |
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pecwae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
46. There's no point to this question |
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Riley18 (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
47. If not now, when? It is enough that we, the 99%, are united now. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
49. Organic movements emerge when you least expect them |
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Tippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
51. Everyone has an opinion |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
52. "Again, do not misinterpret. This couldn't be clearer. I SUPPORT OWS. " |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
53. Telling OWS that they have to do it your way isn't supporting. |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
54. too funny. |
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piratefish08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
55. OWS doesn't claim to represent progressives, leftys, rightys or anyone else. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
56. You seem to have them confused with an Obama fanclub. n/t |
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Paladin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
58. How Many Other Threads Do You Intend On Starting, Shitting On OWS? |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
62. where was the Democratic Party between Jan 2009 and Oct 2010? |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
63. This and other OPs do not sound like you're supporting #OWS. To each their own. |
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SaveOurDemocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
64. "I SUPPORT OWS." hmmmmm... |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
65. If you have to ask...you just don't get it. nt |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
66. Where were they in 1972? |
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whatchamacallit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
68. OWS = Obama dilemma = feigned support with "concerns" |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 11:49 PM Response to Reply #68 |
99. There's a difference .... |
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zalinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
69. Most of them thought Obama was going to lead the charge. |
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monicamonix32 (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
70. They thought congress and the president had it covered, probably. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
72. 2010 and what's happened since told folks that progress wouldn't come |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. "to those who wait" |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
73. Time was ripe |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
81. In high school still? |
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dameocrat67 (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
82. I was trying to pass a public option |
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JesterCS (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
87. i think alot of it has to do with Arab Spring |
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Union Scribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
88. Yeah, you totally sound like you're full of support. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
92. dupe |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-11 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
95. LOL |
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theophilus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-11 01:39 AM Response to Original message |
102. Great OP |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-11 05:19 AM Response to Original message |
105. OWS doesn't care about stuff like TeaBag summer or BirtherGate. Those were Obama's fights, not OWS. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-11 07:25 AM Response to Original message |
107. you call these threads "support"? bullshit! |
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