I am so fucking sick of these people.

[WilliamPitt]

This last little song-and-dance by some American Spectator whore (look around if you don't know what I'm talking about; you'll find it soon enough) really proves my point.

They are scared: http://www.truth-out.org/bank-it-theyre-scared/1318020817

Here's the thing, DU: we spend so much time grinding gears against each other, even as we agree with each other 90% of the time.

Well, here we are...at a genuine tipping point.

As a DUer, I've been working towards this moment for more than ten years. As a person, I've been at it twice that long.

As people, many many many DUers have been working towards this moment for 30, 40, 50 years. On this board, you are surrounded on all sides by heroes, warriors and good old-fashioned American grinders. Shoulder to the wheel, amen.

As a good man once said: you are the one you've been waiting for. You've been here all along.

I am so fucking sick of the "news" media, of the powers-that-be, of this slow, sneaking abrogation of my basic American rights.

OWS is the first, best representation of that feeling in the pit of your stomach, the one that says, "This is wrong."

Please: if you can show up to a protest in your town - or start one in its absence - do so. If you can bring blankets and food to an ongoing protest, do so.

If you know a good lawyer, let him/her know they might have a slew of new clients soon - I have a strong sense that the billyclubs are going to fly soon (this level of intemperance is tolerated only for so long in America) which means a lot of good people are going to need a good lawyer before too much more time passes.

This is no joke.

I am so fucking sick of these people.

So are you.

Show up.

Stand.

:hug:

:toast:

It's us or nothing at this point.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. You always say it so well, my dear Will...

Recommended.

:hug:

[blm]

5. Hear! and...

Here!

[Fire Walk With Me]

2. ...

:applause::applause::applause:

[Mark D.]

25. Two Responses

Use these freely William, or anyone. Next time you hear a Tparty fan ask 'what are they protesting?'

MARKET SOCIALISM (Money redistributed up, by under-regulated markets beneficiary elites control).
CORPORATE COMMUNISM (Creating a two-party state. A controlling elite & a massive working poor).

They'll try to bring up Unions joining in and bash Unions. You need to turn their 'logic' against them.

Unions aren't perfect, but historically fight for good paying jobs HERE, and a safe work environment.
So ask, why are they against a majority of Americans (working Americans)? That's so UNPATRIOTIC.

[JustAnotherGen]

70. Brilliant!

I'm using that!

[Oceansaway]

3. K&R...n/t

[Marrah_G]

Great post Will.

I honestly think this is the beginning of something historic. What sort of cooking set up do they have going downtown? Do they have grills?

[stevedeshazer]

4. 44 year struggle for me.

I've been beating my head against this wall since I was twelve.

Now I can stand again. With my adult children.

Winning!

[spanone]

6. k&r...

[WillyT]

7. A-Fucking-Men, Will !!! - K & R !!!

:bounce::yourock::bounce:

:kick:

[peacebird]

8. Well said! K&R!

[butterfly77]

9. Kicked&Recommended...

[nashville_brook]

10. well said!

[Kaleko]

11. It IS the tipping point

if enough people decide that they really can't take it anymore.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

37. You are correct.

I have been discussing this with the SO and she, by no means a political neophyte, strongly agrees with the evidence of this on the merits.

Back before the 2008 elections, I was saying that if things were not demonstrably better 3 years into the tenure of whomever was POTUS, this lid would come off of this sucker.

And here we are.

The Teabillies? Astroturf. Wholy-owned subsidiary of Koch Industries Inc, LLC, SA, NA, PPPoE. Fake populism, sold by the measure, bought for pennies on the dollar.

Occupy Wall Street? The Real Thing. That scares the likes of Cantor and his handlers. No one owns it. It's totally organic and uncontrolled.

The lid's coming off this sucker.

[MadrasT]

66. "Teabillies" is priceless.

I love that term.

xoxo,
Madras

[proud2BlibKansan]

12. Thank you

Well said.

I agree 10000%

[Kurovski]

13. K&R. (nt)

[EdMaven]

14. I'm sick enough of them that if this is the direction of the future -- to be ruled by

venal corrupt arrogant fools in a completely privatized marketized dog-eat-dog landscape --

I would wish to develop cancer quickly.

The kind of world has nothing of interest for me except to escape from it.

[Saving Hawaii]

17. might as well

"I'm sick enough of them that if this is the direction of the future -- to be ruled by venal corrupt arrogant fools in a completely privatized marketized dog-eat-dog landscape"

Yeah, I'm starting to think of taking the Republican mantra of "get sick and die quickly" to heart. Would save me some grief.

[ChandlerJr]

15. I've said before, beware of charismatic charlatans

racing to get out in front of this parade.

[napoleon_in_rags]

20. +1. No leaders. nt

[kimsarah]

47. Agree

[EFerrari]

16. Let's make it unfashionable again to be hateful, stupid and ignorant.

That would be a good start.

[Syntheto]

18. Chuckle....

[GoCubsGo]

49. What's so funny?

[Hotler]

19. 7:30 pm here in Denver and I just got back from....

delivering a few space blankets and a bunch of foot/hand warmers. It looks like a good group there. They have porta-potties and a bunch of food and water. They are set for tonight. Cops are letting them have tents. Going back down tomorrow. I'm as fed up as you are Will. Solidarity people.

[RagAss]

21. Amen !

[Mark D.]

26. +1

[Turn CO Blue]

22. Show up. It's We The People or...nothing at this point. nt

[moondust]

23. It's been a long time comin'.

It's gonna be a long time gone.

[Arctic Dave]

24. Fuck yeah! Spoken like a leader. nt

It is your destiny, be in charge of it.

[dixiegrrrrl]

27. Speaking of being in charge, here is a great example of it

THIS should lift anyone's spirits..

OWS running Geraldo Rivera and Fox staff OUT of the park!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x623413#623439

Yep...everyone stood together and shamed Fox into fleeing.

[Fire Walk With Me]

34. Beautiful. A thing of beauty.

[JDPriestly]

28. Thanks. You are so right.

[rosesaylavee]

29. Right there with you William

Thank you for saying it out loud.

:kick:

[gateley]

30. K&R nt

[JDPriestly]

31. Geraldo is definitely not part of the 99%.

No way.

[marions ghost]

32. we're all sick of it

:thumbsup: The protests need to continue nonstop.

[donheld]

33. Kick and recommend the being sick and the thread.

[Remember Me]

35. Show Up. Stand Up. Be Heard. And Never Shut Up. nt

[kestrel91316]

36. I'm thinking we need to start up Occupy Warner Center here in the San Fernando Valley.

They aren't nearly scared enough to suit me.

[Zorra]

38. Uh-huh. That's right. Let's do this.

I'm in it until they've fallen and can't get up.

[Skittles]

39. you nail it, William

right here: OWS is the first, best representation of that feeling in the pit of your stomach, the one that says, "This is wrong."

CORRECT. And like you, I have had that feeling for a long, LONG time.

[citizen blues]

40. It's been 30 years for me.

I was part of the high school graduating class that had our Social Security Survivor Benefits cut by Reagan. 1982. I've been mad as hell ever since.

A cousin of mine recently told me that this is the system we have, like it or not. I told him that he didn't get it. We had better. His response was to tell me that I had insulted his intelligence. So I wrote him a short blog about Glass-Steagull, explaining that it was part of what has been dismantled piece by piece over the last 30 years. I got no response and have largely written him off.

When I was 20 most of my cousins my age were cheering on the Reagan Revolution. But I was different. My mom had died when I was 13 and it left my dad drowning in over 70k in medical bills in 1978. He was a small businessman and ended up liquidating everything he owned, but managed to keep food on the table and save our home in large part thanks to those social security benefits.

When my one great aunt saw the way my cousins were, she told me, "I was born and raised a democrat. Then in 1928 went to college, became a republican and voted for Hoover. KICK ME! (yes, her exact words.) She added that she'd been a democrat and only voted democrat ever since.

She was distraught about my cousins. She said, "It's always been the young people who bring about change. If not them, then who?" She added, "If they're conservative now, where's this country going to be 20, 30 years down the road?" She knew she wouldn't live to see it, but her reason for telling me was to tell me to keep the faith. To hold what I knew, what we both knew was right close to my heart, because she wanted me to be one of those few who would carry the dreams on and pass the torch to the next generation who would care enough to make a difference and help bring about the changes we would so desperately need.

We now have those young people, that next generation Occupying Wall St and other locations all across the country. It's not that my job is done. It's not. Now is the time work to side by side and to march side by side with them. Support them, encourage them, and help them continue to ignite the flame that is now burning across this land in hope of a better tomorrow.

The fight is here. The fight is now. Let it begin.

[snagglepuss]

41. Well said.! Welcome to DU.

:hi:

[Lochloosa]

48. I second that welcome citizen blues. Well said.

:toast:

[davidthegnome]

42. It has to start somewhere...

The big question to me, is what the final expectation is. Yes, we can protest the corruption, the endless and overwhelming greed - the sickness of a media that paints decent people as monsters and monsters as true patriots.

What do we want though? What could we all collectively agree, would be a goal to ultimately aim for? A more fair justice system... a media not controlled by corporate money and government influence? I think you're right that we have to step up and be the change we've wanted and waited for. We have to be the heroes we've been searching for in others. We also need goals, something clearly defined or else we're raging against a system we have no idea how to fix.

I'm willing to start a protest, or join one... but first I need to know what the intended goal of it is. Just to get attention? To get criminal trials for the corrupt? To start re-arranging our system of oligarchy?

There has to be a goal because a protest is a means to an end, not an end in itself. I'm far from being organized enough or clever enough to put it all together myself. I can see a lot of what's wrong, but I haven't got the first idea how to fix it all, or what my demands should ultimately be.

Without an agenda that can be clearly defined there's really not a great deal to be accomplished.

[coalition_unwilling]

45. I'd like to point you to an awesome thread I just finished reading:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2088697

I would propose that fundamental property relations need to be redone, so that a prick like Steve Jobs cannot accumulate an estate worth $6.5 billion and pass it along largely untouched to his heirs. I would propose therefore expropriating or confiscating obscene hoards of wealth, maybe any estate over $1 million should be subject to a higher estate tax, proceeds of said tax to fund universal single-payer healthcare.

[Major Hogwash]

43. We ARE the ones that we've been waiting for. Carpe diem!

[Major Hogwash]

44. Faux Snooze celebrates 15 years of bashing Democrats.

When it started, they used it as a media vehicle to bash Clinton, trying to get him thrown out of office.
1996.

Then they spent the next 8 years defending anything the Republicans did.
And have spent the last 2 and a half years bashing Obama and the Democrats.
They have spent billions of dollars bashing Democrats.

[a2liberal]

46. How can I donate monetarily

to provide supplies (food, blankets, etc.) for the wall street occupiers? Want to make sure the money doesn't end up in the wrong hands...

[bettyellen]

52. NY has a PO Box and a list of needs (sleeping bags and shoes) on the NY meetup thread but for $$$

a link


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2088148

[RoccoR5955]

50. Was at Liberty Park and Washington Square on Saturday,

and plan on going down each and every weekend. I am about 100 miles north of NYC, and this is a great expense of time for me. I am willing to fight for this, and as said in OP, have been waiting for this for more than 40 years.
Be there, or be square!

[mod mom]

51. Been working & waiting too. This rejuvenates the movement that I thought would spread after

the election thefts! rec'd

[Firebrand Gary]

53. I have been to OCCUPY SACRAMENTO and I will keep going.

[behrstar]

54. Occupy Louisville

started just less than one week ago. The young and not so young people bgathered there are FANTASTIC. Respectful. Democratic. Peaceful. And they aren't about to go away. Tipping point? Hell yes! The Occupy Movement is making the tea party BS look totally insignificant.

Hint to the clueless in DC: Start by changing the law so that corporations are NOT persons. Then address the PEOPLES business. Or do nothing and we will vote your sorry asses OUT :-)

[Hubert Flottz]

55. When it comes to my town I'll be there.

And it will...

[Bake]

56. I am afraid it's going to turn violent sooner or later, because they ARE scared.

OWS won't start it. But I hope to hell they stand up for themselves. But I'm afraid people are going to get hurt.

:hi:

Bake

[raouldukelives]

57. K&R

[allan01]

58. I am so fucking sick of these people.

my first major foray into du . am a new member
seems like that some have forgotten what this country is about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utkBu-mqi-c
This is one of my fav cartoons . Note : under god isnt in the pledge ,as the toon was made prior to the 50s when it was inserted. Makes me cry. I showed it to an Australian friend and he cried too. The voice of uncle sam is henery fonda

[SammyWinstonJack]

59. ...

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[October]

60. All too true!

Just received an email about a local "Occupy" gathering this week. I'm inspired!

[RKP5637]

61. K&R!!! n/t

[democracy _ idyllic]

62. k&r

Afraid of seeing their footsteps on our necks. They can't handle the truth of what they've done to us, our country and ultimately themselves.

[DinahMoeHum]

63. Remember, folks: Uniformity (GOP) is not unity; Diversity (DU) is not dis-unity.

:grouphug:

Up.Against.The.Wall.Street.

[Aleric]

64. Legal Observers and Legal Support

If you are involved with your local #occupy and you think you will need legal support, start by contacting the National Lawyers Guild in your area (http://www.nlg.org).

They will start by setting up a legal observer framework to monitor the events and police reaction. They may also set up local legal support coordination office such as the one in New York City or the one that was setup for the SB1070 protests in Arizona in 2010. They can and will help make sure that you have a legal support framework in place BUT contact them NOW not later.

[Mr Deltoid]

65. Yeah, no shit

I've been waiting for people to finally get sick of this crap since Reagan.

The more the 1% try to fight it, the more it will look like a neo counter culture. This is happening DESPITE the Democratic party. The left if biting back.

[tpsbmam]

67. You said it all, Will. There's little excuse for not showing up

I hope mine will stand. I just had major surgery for ovarian cancer, have to recover for about 6 weeks and then start chemo. I'm barely typing now -- sort of loopy at this point!

I encourage everyone who can to SHOW UP!!! This is, indeed, the tipping point and I'm pissed as hell to miss it!!

[juajen]

68. Well spoken, as usual, Will! NT

[PuffedMica]

69. K&R

[relayerbob]

71. Billy clubs?

Perhaps, but in LA, the LAPD are bringing food and supplies to the #occupiers. A lot of police recognize who's on whose side.

[GreenTea]

72. You got it..............

[WilliamPitt]

73. One last kick

:toast: