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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:18 PM
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Elizabeth Hasselbeck Like Many Miss The Point...
Edited on Mon Oct-10-11 01:19 PM by rsmith6621

She pointed to this picture on THE VIEW this morning.




The point they miss is that corporations are involved in every aspect of our lives unlike 30 years ago.

So now I will hit the post message and the data will go through Comcast to get to the DU.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:21 PM
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1. She's a useless shill for billionaires. Don't watch her show. nt
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 03:34 PM
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28. Yes, but her show includes Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar, who are liberals. n/t
Edited on Mon Oct-10-11 03:35 PM by RebelOne
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 04:02 PM
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31. Right, but Hasslebeck and flat-earth Sherri are still there, so it's not worth watching. nt
Edited on Mon Oct-10-11 04:02 PM by valerief
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 05:47 PM
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37. Actually, I rarely watch The View, but I do like Whoppi and Joy.
Edited on Mon Oct-10-11 05:48 PM by RebelOne
I quite often watch Joy Behar's show.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:21 PM
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2. Lizbeth only sees the right wing point.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:22 PM
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3. Who? What? More santorum?
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:23 PM
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4. She's an idiot.
Nuff said.
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DenverDad Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 04:23 PM
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34. Definitely.
Edited on Mon Oct-10-11 04:24 PM by DenverDad
Her comments frustrated the hell out of me, today. A total lack of understanding regarding this movement.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:23 PM
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5. The point is that they're not paying their share, not that they're corporations.
What a bunch of fucking numbskulls.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:24 PM
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6. Good post.
:thumbsup:
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:24 PM
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7. Ding!
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:24 PM
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8. +1
bunch of dumbasses.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:31 PM
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12. yep! and either she knows this and is
deliberately ignoring that to suit her agenda OR, as you say, she is a fucking numbskull.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:31 PM
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13. It was never about them 'getting the point'
Their job is to deliberately mock, belittle and distort the movement...

The 1% probably had their PR fixers and political garbagemen working all weekend to plot a counter-offensive, and it's only going to get worse from here...
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 02:26 PM
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21. Tada.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 03:19 PM
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26. pretty much
the rally isn't anti-company. It is just placing corporation in the proper place as institution in society not members of that society. It is possible to own an Iphone and want apple to create American jobs and pay American taxes.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:26 PM
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9. Elizabeth Misses The Point...Again.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:27 PM
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10. Only because she wants to.
Thanks for the thread, rsmith.
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:27 PM
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11. Yeah that's a straw man
The issue isn't that corporations make stuff.

OSW is not about going back to some 17th century mythical luddite paradise.

But the actual argument OSW is making is hard for the right to deal with so a straw man works wonderfully.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:32 PM
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14. Jesus called it
When he asked his disciples who John the Baptist was, and why did people go out in the desert to see him? They thought John was a prophet, but nobody wanted to hear his message about reordering society. The proffered excuse was because John was just too extreme, living in the desert, eating honey and locusts, and wearing a hair shirt. So Jesus comes along, observing a much less rigorous personal ethic, eating and drinking, but preaching the same message about reordering society. The folks in charge didn't want to hear the message from him, either, denouncing Jesus as a glutton and a drunkard.

There's always an excuse from the defenders of the status quo. People advocating for change are always too pure, or not pure enough, or some other reason why the few fucking over the many is just the way it is and has to be. Elisabeth Hasselbeck is doing just fine with things the way they are, and quit talking about change, because her privileged position might be jeopardized. There will always be a reason to oppose any change to the system that's benefited her so handsomely for doing nothing.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:34 PM
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15. Yeah, that's exactly right!
All those people paid far too much for all that shit... and paid too much taxes on the income from whence the meager leavings came that bought these overpriced items.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:37 PM
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16. She gets her TP's from Hannity.



They are in frequent contact with one another. Seriously.
It has been verified here before.

They are both ignorant assholes.


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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:43 PM
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17. Would they prefer the protesters be naked?
Or wear potato sacks? Yeah, that would go over really well wouldn't it.
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Lionessa Donating Member (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:46 PM
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18. I don't think that's the point either, it's not that they are in our lives, it's that
they are corrupting our banking system, our political system, our health system, our insurance system, our education system... it's the corruption, not the existence of them in our lives.
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DenverDad Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 04:22 PM
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33. and our media.
Agree, Lionessa, THAT is exactly the point!

:fistbump:
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Lionessa Donating Member (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 05:24 PM
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35. Yep, hence the "..." because I knew the list was longer, just sort of petered out listing.
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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:48 PM
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19. Pssst, Elizabeth ---
Don't mean to burst your little bubble further, but a lot of those products can be purchased at Goodwill or other thrift shops. Amazing what things can be found there. Designer clothing is no rarity in such stores. Hell, in the last twenty years the only thing I've bought new is underwear (always) and shoes(sometimes). Get a grip, Liz; you donate your discards and get a tax deduction for doing so, and people like me buy the stuff AND PAY SALES TAXES when we do. So kindly find something else to bitch about, okay?
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Kalidurga Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 02:14 PM
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20. Thanks for the reminder Elizabeth...
just another reminder of how corporations make stuff and pay those people that make it slave wages and then complain that they pay too much in taxes....
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 02:41 PM
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22. Funny. All that merchandise comes from outsourced labor thus proving OWS point
That hardly anything comes from the United States anymore and people are tired of being unemployed while threatened to pay higher taxes to pay for Wall Street's carelessness and send more jobs overseas.
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jpljr77 Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 02:45 PM
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23. There's already a great visual reply to that image:


Pretty blunt.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 03:03 PM
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24. Anyone who listens to any of Elisabeth Hasselbeck's opinions
and believes there is any factual basis at all in her ramblings needs to think twice.

Hasselbeck has previously shown she's unable to come up with an opinion on anything on her own. She's fed talking points daily via RNC BlastFAX and, evidently, Hannity.

It's possible she's even more stupid than Caribou Barbie, and that's quite an achievement.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 03:17 PM
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25. I'm going to guess that you're under 40?
Thirty years ago, big-ass corporations were indeed involved in our lives. I think you'd find it difficult to come up with a time in the last hundred, maybe hundred-fifty years ago when they weren't.

Perhaps the better argument is that banksters are not the same as the large corporations that honestly try to provide jobs, products and services that people really want, and seek at least a little eco-friendliness while they're doing it. It was not Sony, Clairol, Gillette, Gap, etc. that did stupid-ass things that collapsed the economy.
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 03:22 PM
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27. They SUPPORT businesses that MAKE THINGS... just not the Wall Street casino!
EOM
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Jankyn Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 03:37 PM
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29. Yes, this is troubling...
Even those of us who try to shop and eat locally are still in thrall of the corporations. For example, we do our banking through a credit union. But in order to have Internet access and telephones, we must patronize corporations (who gather incredible amounts of information on us).

We ride local public transit and bicycles, but those things are, in whole or in part, produced by corporations. Even our clothing is very difficult to buy (or at least afford) unless its mass-produced by a corporation (at least we make a point of buying American).

That's the real problem. "Economies of scale" are one thing, but these--seriously--octopus-like tentacles into every part of our lives? That's got to stop.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 03:38 PM
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30. Elizabeth receives a one hour briefing from Fox News just before show time.
Source - Rosie O'Donnell.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 04:08 PM
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32. the protestors aren't demanding an end to corporations fucking dumb fuck, is Warren Buffet
asking for his business to be illegal ? no, he is asking for fairness in the tax system and other regulations.

fucking dumb fuck.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 05:37 PM
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36. she's paid to miss the point n/t
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