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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 05:52 PM
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As a witness to 13 presidential elections I can honestly say
the GOP's prospects have never looked worse. I honestly can't recall when Republicans have arrived at the party more self-beshitten.

Obama will have to kill a puppy a day to throw this one away.

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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 05:57 PM
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1. Yes but the Kock bros. have called this a war of all times....
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Sheepshank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 09:39 AM
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27. I can't think of a better way for them to use their ill begotten gains...
Let the Koch's throw billions at the GOP.
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libinnyandia Donating Member (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 05:58 PM
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2. 2012
I sure hope you're right. But the American voters have often dissapointed me. And the GOP will probably accuse Obama of killing kittens as well as puppies.
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MsKandice01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 05:58 PM
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3. Beshitten??
Nice... I'm going to have to use that one. LOL
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 06:13 PM
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12. Bwahaha! It is a good one! nt
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 07:44 PM
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20. +1...lolol n/t
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 05:59 PM
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4. It's almost as if none of them really want to win, they just want a platform to bash Obama.
I swear Cain is purposely sabotaging his election.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 06:00 PM
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5. I disagree
Even compared to the rat race they have going on right now the Republican Ticket of 2008 was as bad as it gets. McCain was and is a dottering old fool at his very best, a bought toad otherwise, and Palin ... well, what more need be said.

I still think it will be Newt, and when it comes time for debates Obama will have his hands full. It won't be like having McCain up there on the podium looking stupid. You and I may not be able to find much good in Newt, but he is not a stupid man and he is blessed with the silver tongue. All the rest of their candidates are just fucking idiots, granted.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 06:03 PM
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6. And I'll agree
with your call on Newt. Newt is a fool but a competent fool, and in spite of the meme's he's already self-destructed he's "all they got".

Still - not a chance in hell.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:27 AM
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28. Republicans could put 2012 back in play by running Huckabee.
Smart, charismatic, and dead even with Obama when he dropped out. IMO there's a significant chance he'll re-enter.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:32 AM
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31. True, people will at least listen to Huch....Mitt on the other hand is a slickster from the outset
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 06:03 PM
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7. Citizens United is now also present,
and that kind of changes things, IMO.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 06:04 PM
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8. i'd have to say second worse. they very clearly wrote 2008 off early.
but point well taken. they'll have to bring an epic cheat in order to win this one.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 06:05 PM
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9. If the GOP looks like they've killed a bunch of puppies & Obama would have to kill a bunch to lose..
Then the corporate MSM would make puppy killing a prerequisite for the Presidency.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 06:06 PM
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10. They have Citizens United and all proprietary software voting software they could want. nt
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 06:12 PM
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11. 13 elections, all 2008 and earlier? hmm..
Edited on Mon Oct-10-11 06:12 PM by alp227
2008, 04, 00, 1996, 92, 88, 84, 80, 76, 72, 68, 64, 60.

Hmm, what about how Goldwater lost so many states in '64? Or in '76 post-Watergate? Or in '92 when Perot split the conservative vote especially after George H.W. Bush reneged on "Read my lips no new taxes"? And have you seen my GDP post from August discussing conservative Republican dissatisfaction with Nixon in 1971 (but Nixon was popular enough among independents anyway to win re election)?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 06:16 PM
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13. The current crop are children, toddlers, compared to any of those candidates.
Seriously. Bachmann makes Goldwater look like fucking Abe Lincoln.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 07:43 PM
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19. Goldwater even criticized the Christian Right in the '80s and DADT too
The 1995 in-depth biographical book about him quotes him saying about don't ask don't tell: "You don't have to be straight...you just have to be able to shoot straight." Yet back in the '60s Goldwater had a libertarian attitude toward the civil rights act comparable to Rand Paul's (remember the "right to discriminate" controversy?)
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 09:07 AM
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25. Yes I do remember that.
Fortunately in 2011 that's much more of a liability. Paul can get away with that shit in Kentucky, but he's a dead duck in terms of presidential politics.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 06:28 PM
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14. I can't under-estimate the NeoCon Lunatic Evangelicals...
The last couple of days, I have been watching Ken Burns Documentary on PBS RE: Prohibition.

It's amazing the the similarities.. how a band of a few crazy religious zealots could take over an entire nation and impose their insanity on the masses. (Volstead Act)

I think the TeaBaggers are going to wait until the last minute.. and then throw in CIA Director Gen David Patreaus. (Mr. Obama's recent appointee)

This will be the final spasms of Democracy as we descend into a full-fledged fascist-military dictatorship.. imposed by a relatively small number of religious crazies in this country.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 06:29 PM
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15. Voter disenfranchise and hacking voting machines
Do you really think they won't use any means they can to get the results they want?
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 07:06 PM
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16. Oh, shit.. Obama just released details of his, "Kill a Puppy a Day," initiative 2 combat joblessness
Why does he keep playing into republican hands? :sarcasm:

TlalocW
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 07:21 PM
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18. LOL given the rope
we do seem to hang ourselves, don't we? :thumbsup:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 07:09 PM
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17. Well after the biggest piece of shit got 'elected' in 2000.
Everything else stuck to the bottom of the boat floated to the top of the water to take a stab at American apathy and stupidity.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 11:46 PM
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21. You might even see they want to lose.
The dog and pony show is just for the rubes.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 12:02 AM
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22. I remember people saying that in 1980
Just sayin'.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 09:04 AM
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24. Really?
The economy was in shambles, and Carter had just botched the Iranian hostage rescue:

"Operation Eagle Claw (or Operation Evening Light or Operation Rice Bowl)<1> was an American military operation ordered by President Jimmy Carter to attempt to put an end to the Iran hostage crisis by rescuing 52 Americans held captive at the U.S. Embassy in Tehran, Iran on 24 April 1980. The humiliating public debacle that ensued damaged American prestige worldwide and is believed by many, including Carter himself, to have played a major role in his defeat in the 1980 presidential election.<2>"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Eagle_Claw

By election time, Reagan was looking much more like the folksy, confident leader Americans thought Carter would be.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 05:27 PM
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33. They sure said it when Reagan was nominated n/t
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 12:42 AM
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23. The GOP is going to have to select a victim before long, and then "it's clobbering time!"
When I turn into 'The Thing' and just start kicking ass!!!
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 09:33 AM
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26. If Bachmann gets the nomination and adds Turner to the ticket,
That campaign will go into overdrive.
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:28 AM
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29. Your post is really funny. Comedy funny.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:30 AM
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30. You've been through 13 US presidential elections? If so, please give us more perspective. Thank you
...in advance for any input. Your knowledge is invaluable.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:39 AM
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32. I'd like to think that the Republicans' days were numbered
I was hopeful that they were over post-2008 but then the Tea Party came along and gave it a shot in the arm in time for 2010 and we are now reaping their bitter crop. I can't imagine the lunacy can go on in perpetuity but I don't know when it's going to be over either. There are still too many people out there brainwashed by hate radio and fundamentalism to hate Democrats, fear progress, and vote Republican even when it's against their own interests for me to feel safe and secure. :shrug:
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