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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:18 AM
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"Civil disobedience will not be tolerated," (Boston Mayor Thomas Menino)
Edited on Tue Oct-11-11 10:27 AM by G_j
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/10/11-6

Published on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 by Reuters

Scores Arrested at Occupy Boston Protest Site
by Ros Krasny

BOSTON - Tensions boiled over in the early hours of Tuesday in downtown Boston, where police arrested about 100 protesters after the Occupy Boston group expanded its footprint and was told by authorities to backtrack.

Protesters said late on Monday that police had given participants an ultimatum to return to their small original encampment by nightfall or be moved along.

But it was not until after 1 a.m. ET Tuesday when hundreds of Boston and Transit police officers, some in riot gear, moved in on the group, handcuffing protesters and tearing down tents.

"At 1:30 this morning hundreds of police in full riot gear brutally attacked Occupy Boston," the group said in a news release, adding that authorities "made no distinction between protesters, medics, or legal observers."

Police said no protesters or police were injured in the maneuver.

"Civil disobedience will not be tolerated," Boston Mayor Thomas Menino told the local Fox News affiliate in an interview early Tuesday

..more..
~~~~~~~~
for a few laughs: website dedicated to Menino's malapropisms,

http://www.mumblesmenino.us/
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:20 AM
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1. What a Fascist THUG!
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trueblue2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:39 AM
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21. THE MAYOR IS A PIG
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:21 AM
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2. Oh, how the mighty have fallen. From the state that gave us in
times past Henry David Thoreau.

Fuck you Menino. And fuck all your goons.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:50 AM
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26. Make that "the state that in times past put Thoreau in jail"
It's not like things have actually changed all that much. But without that incident, we wouldn't have the concept of civil disobedience for Merino to refuse to tolerate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_David_Thoreau

On July 24 or July 25, 1846, Thoreau ran into the local tax collector, Sam Staples, who asked him to pay six years of delinquent poll taxes. Thoreau refused because of his opposition to the Mexican-American War and slavery, and he spent a night in jail because of this refusal. (The next day Thoreau was freed, against his wishes, when his aunt paid his taxes.) The experience had a strong impact on Thoreau. In January and February 1848, he delivered lectures on "The Rights and Duties of the Individual in relation to Government"] explaining his tax resistance at the Concord Lyceum. Bronson Alcott attended the lecture, writing in his journal on January 26:

"Heard Thoreau's lecture before the Lyceum on the relation of the individual to the State– an admirable statement of the rights of the individual to self-government, and an attentive audience. His allusions to the Mexican War, to Mr. Hoar's expulsion from Carolina, his own imprisonment in Concord Jail for refusal to pay his tax, Mr. Hoar's payment of mine when taken to prison for a similar refusal, were all pertinent, well considered, and reasoned. I took great pleasure in this deed of Thoreau's."

Thoreau revised the lecture into an essay entitled Resistance to Civil Government (also known as Civil Disobedience).

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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:57 AM
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31. Thanks for filling in the details. Abraham Lincoln as a junior
Congressperson from Illinois also opposed the Mexican-American War and spoke against it repeatedly, although not engaging in civil disobedience to stop it.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:22 AM
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3. Now he's just channeling the original Mayor Richard Daley.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:23 AM
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4. If it's tolerated, it's not disobedient. n/t
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:23 AM
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5. But grand larceny by rich is still okay /nt
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:24 AM
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6. Oddly, I now find that Boston Mayor Thomas Menino will not be tolerated.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:24 AM
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7. The very definition of fascism, to respond to peaceful protest with coercion.
nt
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:24 AM
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8. Menino told the local Fox News affiliate... Typical... Fox.
He is another wholly owned right wing fascist thug.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:26 AM
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9. Some Mayor clearly forgot a state hero...
Once upon a time there was this guy, from Concord, Mass. by the name of Henry David Thoreau.



He wrote an essay titled Civil Disobedience, it is an argument for individual resistance to civil government in moral opposition to an unjust state.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:28 AM
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12. +1000
:applause:
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:33 AM
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16. Do you suppose Thoreau will be banned from Boston Schools?
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 11:01 AM
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33. Menino's a machine politics thug...
I'm sure if the opportunity had presented itself, he'd have banned it already.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:33 AM
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14. and it's free!
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:35 AM
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17. It could be read out loud at the occupations.
Maybe that would help the tea-partying GOP realize what it means to carry on American tradition.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:37 AM
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20. I love that idea
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:41 AM
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23. I think it's time to pay some tribute to his contribution to America
:thumbsup:
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:53 AM
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29. "How can a man be satisfied to entertain an opinion merely,
How can a man be satisfied to entertain an opinion merely, and enjoy it? Is there any enjoyment in it, if his opinion is that he is aggrieved? If you are cheated out of a single dollar by your neighbor, you do not rest satisfied with knowing you are cheated, or with saying that you are cheated, or even with petitioning him to pay you your due; but you take effectual steps at once to obtain the full amount, and see to it that you are never cheated again."

Such words from Thoreau would encourage those who Occupy.





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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:36 AM
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19. He also spent a night in jail after protesting the Mexican American war.
He refused to pay his tax so the tossed him in jail...
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:43 AM
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24. Yes, being jailed for civil disobedience has a long history
and more and more members of the Occupy movement are going to be part of that history before it is over.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:55 AM
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30. I just hope no one dies (a la Kent State U.). But this situation really
is starting to feel like 'Bleeding Kansas' in the 1850s.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 11:01 AM
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35. I had that Kent State thought, too.
Edited on Tue Oct-11-11 11:09 AM by HereSince1628
The system will resist change more and more strenuously.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:26 AM
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10. did he stamp his feet and flap his arms when said that? nt
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:40 AM
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22. lol. i was thinking the same. nt
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:27 AM
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11. Way to become a magnet for civil disobedience.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:31 AM
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13. perhaps it's time for a little uncivil disobedience..
asshole.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:35 AM
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18. WTF is the matter with
Massachusetts? Romney, now this ass. BTW, I think not having Antonio Gates will doom the Chargers.
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Lizzie Poppet Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 11:35 AM
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42. "Sic semper tyrannis"
Still holding out hope that this can remain non-violent (on the Occupiers' side...the other side's already resorted to violence). That hope is fading fast, and it's heartbreaking.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:33 AM
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15. Menino must go! What a criminal!
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:48 AM
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25. Then why doesn't he just give Mass. back to the British?


Or end the eight-hour work day?

Or put nine-year-olds back to work 16-hour-days in sweat shops?

Or take away the right of Mass. women to vote?

Civil disobedience changed those conditions for the better for all Mass residents, Menino.


But then there's always Salem if you want to really get down with some corrupt leadership that must just be "tolerated.".

Can we return there with the wayback machine and declare Menino a witch and drown him?






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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 11:39 AM
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43. No, no, no. That isn't how it works at all.
declare Menino a witch and drown him?

In trial by ordeal, if he drowns, that proves he wasn't a witch (but of course, he's been drowned). If he doesn't drown, that proves he is a witch. Then you burn him at the stake. :evilgrin:
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 11:50 AM
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46. Sounds like a great plan to me!


When can we stop all this protesting nonsense and get back to some good old-fashioned public purging?

:evilgrin:
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:51 AM
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27. Typical thug.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:53 AM
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28. Isn't that the point?
Seems obvious to me.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:59 AM
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32. General MacArthur, the IWW and jobless veterans in DC, Pinkerton thugs...
Chicago 1968...

God damn agent provocateurs that get away with murder, SYSTEMIC deprivation of rights under the color of law, etc., that's ok, Mr. Mayor?

RECALL SCOTT WALKER!
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 11:01 AM
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34. Disgusting
The BPD roughed up veterans - the people who swore to defend the Constitution against enemies foreign and domestic - for assembly and exercising freedom of speech. Veterans. The people who not only swore it, but put their lives on the line with service and blood.

The American flag was ripped down and thrown to the ground - it is documented in video. Desecration of the American flag - the flag means something to me, and it's not just a pin to wear on my lapel.

At this point, I can't stop myself from supporting the Occupy movements, and I commit to engaging in the Occupy movements in my area.

Desecrating the American flag, and roughing up veterans was MY last straw.
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 11:06 AM
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36. He is correct
The oligarchs are now getting scared, so neither peaceful protests or civil disobedience will be allowed much longer.

What's next on their agenda are police riots to make an example of the protesters.

It's game on folks. The oligarchs are scared, as well they should be.
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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 11:07 AM
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37. Anyone note the irony of this in the City of the BostonTea Party?
As Lou Reed wrote so eloquently:


"...Give me your hungry, your tired your poor I'll piss on 'em
that's what the Statue of Bigotry says
Your poor huddled masses, let's club 'em to death
and get it over with and just dump 'em on the boulevard

Get to end up, on the dirty boulevard
going out, to the dirty boulevard
He's going down, on the dirty boulevard
going out..."

Dirty Blvd. by Lou Reed
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 11:09 AM
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38. I got news for you,. Mr. Menino. Civil disobedience is a civic duty
in the face of corruption and collusion.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 11:13 AM
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40. There's a link to Thoreau's essay on the duty of civil disobedience in 14 above
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 11:12 AM
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39. I guess he'll damn well have uncivil disobedience, then.
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bakpakr Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 11:20 AM
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41. This quote says it all
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable.
John F. Kennedy
35th president of US 1961-1963 (1917 - 1963)

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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 12:18 PM
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47. +1
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 11:42 AM
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44. Kick
:kick:
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 11:44 AM
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45. He said that just like any good RepubliCON would say it.
Edited on Tue Oct-11-11 11:45 AM by fasttense
And to the RepubliCON controlled media no less.

What a tough guy. Authoritarianism for all.

The beatings will continue until moral improves.
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