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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 01:44 PM Original message |
What Everyone Is Too Polite to Say About Steve Jobs |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. Not everyone. Not I. n/t |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. We discussed these very issues here, so I don't know - I guess DU is rude. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
3. but he made the Chinese make cool toys so all is forgiven |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
4. He also amassed an estate estimated vairously between $4-7 billion. That |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
5. No porn or porn apps on iphones |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 09:51 AM Response to Reply #5 |
69. That's not exactly true. I see pricks on iPhones all the time. |
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rfranklin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
6. Apple has $76 billion in cash on its books...where are the jobs, Jobs? |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 08:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
59. Are you seriously suggesting Apple has created no jobs in the U.S.? |
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rfranklin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 08:30 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. where do you get those numbers? |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 09:57 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Get out of your bedroom sometime. |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 12:52 AM Response to Reply #59 |
68. You mean currently employed at Apple stores, or the total number employed over the years? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
7. It's been said--just not in the media. We had a field day here, recently. |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 05:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
34. +1 |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-11 12:50 AM Response to Reply #34 |
67. I have worked for "that" guy. Not Jobs--but someone just as mean and vicious. |
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Dawson Leery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 04:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
65. +1 |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
8. And he stole the gui idea from Xerox. nt |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
9. He was a control freak who demanded everyone live up to the standards he did. |
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Tom Ripley (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
10. Not from me; I have never believed that the mere act of dying ennobles anyone |
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11 Bravo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 05:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
40. The lives (and deaths) of Jean d'Arc, Nathan Hale, and SSgt Robert J. Miller ... |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 05:35 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. You are conflating actions before death with "the mere act of dying." |
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11 Bravo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 06:38 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Those actions were the cause of their deaths. How does one separate the two? |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 07:14 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. A heroic action. The end of biological life. |
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11 Bravo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 07:25 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. If a soldier throws himself atop a grenade to save a comrade's life, thus ending his own ... |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
11. How long would Apple have stayed in business if they were selling a PC for 3-4X more than all |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 02:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Actually it would further stratify the haves and the have nots. |
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Lionessa (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 02:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Gee, you mean hiring Americans and taking a little less profit would have |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. No, I'm saying that no responsible corporation will risk it's capital by putting |
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Lionessa (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 04:43 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. Responsible corporation, HA! Apple is responsible for the mistreatment and suicides |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #31 |
49. Should we hold all corporations responsible for suicides...or just Apple? |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Depends, would they be another Alienware or a Compaq? |
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randome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
12. Not one of the posters here... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. LOL. "Everything looks bad when you *remember it*!" -H. Simpson. nt |
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backwoodsbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 05:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
36. not one poster here personally knew Bush |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
13. Wouldn't really be PC would it. |
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HipChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
15. That's a very biased,bashing article from Gawker..they were in a very bitter legal dispute with Appl |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. You're not disputing the abusive labor practices, though. nt |
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Lionessa (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
16. Many here said it again and again. But MacHeads or whatever they call |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
18. About those Chinese workers |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Along the same lines, where will the slaves go? They're like *family*! |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 04:25 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Not close to the same thing |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 05:12 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. It's precisely the same fucked up logic. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 05:21 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. No, it's placing the blame in the right place. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #26 |
64. Actually, it's exactly the same logic slave owners used. |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. omfg am I really hearing this?... |
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Ellipsis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 04:38 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. He's right. |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. what is right is not taking billions on the backs of these people. |
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Ellipsis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 05:12 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. He's still right. |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. my guilt as compared to Jobs'? what a cheap shot! |
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Ellipsis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 05:31 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. I would. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. What you should do depends on your goal. |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 05:31 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. in other words, just carry on. Nothing can be done, let it trickle down. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 08:17 PM Response to Reply #47 |
60. No. Set priorities for yourself |
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Ellipsis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 04:37 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. Fox Conn has over 500,000 employees, that just blows my mind! |
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lame54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
24. in the long run his legacy will endure |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
25. This article describes most people in power. What makes Steve Jobs so special? |
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Ellipsis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. Because Steve Jobs was an arrogant asshole who happened to be a great visionary |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 07:57 PM Response to Reply #32 |
56. I'm sure working for Bill Gates is a barrel of fun too. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
28. RWS has made similar statements and had been strongly criticized for it |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
35. The man is dead. Let's just let it rest. n/t |
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pintobean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 05:31 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. So is Reagan |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
41. I've been saying this since Jobs's dead body was still warm. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
44. Geez, somebody doesn't like Apple. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
50. Steve Jobs was not responsible for trade policies that led to business decisions he had to make... |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 06:06 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. "he HAD to make??" Gullible? |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 06:08 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. same deal for the Koch bros? |
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Paladin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 08:00 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. Well Of COURSE You Blame Government, Slack. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-11 08:06 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. He didn't have to make those business decisions, iPhone sells for 3-6x the cost to manufacture. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 04:29 PM Response to Reply #50 |
63. LOL. The Curly defense: Steve Jobs was merely a victim of circumstance! |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-11 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
66. well, you know what they say |
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