Damn, the corporations DO own the NYPD. Lookie here:

[dixiegrrrrl]

Very fascinating report on how Wall Street has hired NYPD for events, thanks to Guliiani, actually.

Oh..we taxpayers pay for some of that "private" hire!

"It’s called the Paid Detail Unit and it allows the New York Stock Exchange and Wall Street corporations, including those repeatedly charged with crimes, to order up a flank of New York’s finest with the ease of dialing the deli for a pastrami on rye.

The corporations pay an average of $37 an hour (no medical, no pension benefit, no overtime pay) for a member of the NYPD, with gun, handcuffs and the ability to arrest. The officer is indemnified by the taxpayer, not the corporation.

New York City gets a 10 percent administrative fee on top of the $37 per hour paid to the police. The City’s 2011 budget called for $1,184,000 in Paid Detail fees, meaning private corporations were paying wages of $11.8 million to police participating in the Paid Detail Unit. The program has more than doubled in revenue to the city since 2002.

The taxpayer has paid for the training of the rent-a-cop, his uniform and gun, and will pick up the legal tab for lawsuits stemming from the police personnel following illegal instructions from its corporate master. Lawsuits have already sprung up from the program."

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/10/on-wall-streets-private-police-in-nypd-uniforms.html

Please note: The corporations pay the city!!!! to "rent" cops that are being paid for by the taxpayer already.This is not the same as when off duty police hire themselves out for jobs.

[coalition_unwilling]

1. This is starting to smell like a taxpayer-funded private militia. Sort

of the domestic version of Xe (PKA 'Blackwater').

[dixiegrrrrl]

2. Yes.....A legal outfit is suing the City over the arrests, including 10 "private" cops.

Private, non NYPD cops were involved with the arrests.
We now have mercenaries attacking our own citizens.

[defendandprotect]

5. kr

[brooklynite]

3. I don't want to ruin a good conspiracy theory...

...but I've hired off-duty cops as well to act as security guards at computer conferences. They've been doing this for decades for whomever wants them. Wall Street has nothing to do with it.

[nichomachus]

6. Not the same thing

You were hiring off-duty cops to stand around on private property.

The corporations have paid the city to send them good squads to beat up on people on public property.

[brooklynite]

7. Prove it...

If you believe that the police have engaged the demonstrators at the behest of the private sector, as opposed to at the behest of the Government for interfering with street traffic or attempting to cross police barricades, you'll need to provide evidence. Besidesa, If Wall Street's goal is to get rid of the protests, wouldn' you say they're doing a lousy job since they keep leaving the core group in the Park untouched?

[Dover]

9. I can't find it now, but I read in some post that Chase bank paid the NYPD

a hefty sum recently for protection. It was in a thread here in GD in the last day or two. Maybe someone remembers the post and can put it here.

[Dover]

12. Here it is. It is the second paragraph down in this article by Chris Hedges:

...The lords of finance in the looming towers surrounding the park, who toy with money and lives, who make the political class, the press and the judiciary jump at their demands, who destroy the ecosystem for profit and drain the U.S. Treasury to gamble and speculate, took little notice of Ketchup or any of the other scruffy activists on the street below them. The elites consider everyone outside their sphere marginal or invisible. And what significance could an artist who paid her bills by working as a waitress have for the powerful? What could she and the others in Zuccotti Park do to them? What threat can the weak pose to the strong? Those who worship money believe their buckets of cash, like the $4.6 million JPMorgan Chase gave* to the New York City Police Foundation, can buy them perpetual power and security. Masters all, kneeling before the idols of the marketplace, blinded by their self-importance, impervious to human suffering, bloated from unchecked greed and privilege, they were about to be taught a lesson in the folly of hubris.


* Correction: An earlier version of this column said JPMorgan Chase gave a donation “a few days ago.” JPMorgan’s website says its gifts to the New York City Police Foundation, which together add up to “the largest (gift) in the history of the foundation,” began arriving last year.


http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/why_the_elites_are_in_trouble_20111009

[dixiegrrrrl]

14. Including 1,000 new patrol cars!!!!!

Here is the exact statement from their website:
New York City Police Foundation — New York

Beginning in 2010, JPMorgan Chase donated technology, time and resources valued at $4.6 million to the New York City Police Foundation, including 1,000 new patrol car laptops. The gift was the largest in the history of the foundation and will enable the New York City Police Department to strengthen security in the Big Apple.

New York City Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly sent CEO and Chairman Jamie Dimon a note expressing "profound gratitude" for the company's donation.

"These officers put their lives on the line every day to keep us safe," Dimon said. "We're incredibly proud to help them build this program and let them know how much we value their hard work."

http://www.jpmorganchase.com/corporate/Home/article/ny-13.htm

btw...Kelly was Senior Managing Director for Corporate Security at Bear Stearns from 2000 to 2001.

and, just like in The Wire, Kelly has been criticized for "cooking the stats" of major crimes.

[Generic Other]

18. So when there is a dreadful catastrophe who do the cops respond to first?

Who gets helped and who does not? Who paid protection money? I'm sorry. Pay your t5axes leeches. Let the city buy its own police cars.

This is like letting the dirty old man down the street buy your daughter's prom dress and believing there are no strings attached.

[Capitalocracy]

21. "1,000 new patrol car laptops".

They're generous, but not THAT generous!

[dixiegrrrrl]

25. oops..did I mis-read??????

[brooklynite]

27. Chase isn't getting it's money's worth...

...especially since their offices are nowhere near Wall Street.

[Dover]

32. Well I don't think proximity has much to do with it. Money buys influence

whether it's a lobbyist representing corporations which affect laws, or whether donations to a politician's campaigns...or donating to the local police force. There are strings attached. Or maybe I'm not understanding your statement. Are you saying that Chase's donation came without strings or that because Chase's offices aren't in the Wall St. area that the police couldn't possibly be working on their behalf? If so, that seems to have all kinds of holes in it. JP Morgan Chase and all financial entities are connected to Wall St and conduct business activities there. And it also seems as though the protesters are indeed planning on moving the protests to different locations such as the home of Chase's CEO.

This practice of acceptance of large sums of money from private companies threatens to create the same sort of issues that contract "private armies" or guns for hire have created in the military. Very troubling.

[dixiegrrrrl]

10. These are not off duty cops, that is the problem.

Read the article.
And no one said this was a conspiracy theory, I posted a news story.Big difference.

There is a legal firm that is suing the city and they are the ones who found that there were "private police" involved with the arrests on the Brooklyn Bridge, btw..

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/10/07/2011-10-07_twitter_shuts_down__then_reactives__account_of_group_fighting_for_wall_st_protes.html#ixzz1aVDnvGs2

[rhett o rick]

28. I think you are on the wrong side here. The cops are protecting the corporations at the expense of

the taxpayers. Fuk the traffic bullshit.

[Puregonzo1188]

38. That's not quite the same thing. Did the city assume all liability? Did they have arrest powers?

Were they in uniform?

Hiring an off duty cop to work as a private security guard is not the same as directly paying the police department for personal use of police services in which the officer in question retains all state power and the city assumes all liabilities.

[Xicano]

Ahh yes, the return of the Pinkerton style "goon squads"

n/t

[sabrina 1]

4. Giuliani was the worst thing that happened to NYC.

He worked to 'clean up the city' so that the elites didn't have to share the city with the homeless, the poor and just plain working people. People need to go look at his record against the homeless, eg, his former Police Chief, Bernie Kerrick now in jail for corruption.

Not to mention the ongoing corruption in that department which has never managed to be reformed no matter how many scandals have erupted and pretexts of reform have been claimed.

Currently they are embroiled in two major corruption scandals eg.

Maybe the focus on them now will finally get the attention of the American people outside of NY who tend to think of the NYPD as a model police force without knowing much about them.

Bloomberg is the epitome of what the OWS movement is all about. He is a true representative of Wall St. and will always provide protection for them when they need it, using the Civilian Police Dept to do so, as was Giuliani.

It's good to see all of these problems being exposed for the world to see now, and hopefully something will be done about these problems.

It was the racism in the Dept eg, that created Al Sharpton as the NYPD got away with the shooting of minorities with impunity, until finally Sharpton and others came along and began to speak out against it. Sharpton isn't perfect, but he was necessary and proved to be a real thorn in the side of the NYPD for a long time.

Thanks for the thread. The more exposure the corrupt NYPD gets the better. They are part of the problem.

[dixiegrrrrl]

16. Look at this:NYPD CIA Anti-Terror Operations Conducted In Secret For Years

NEW YORK (Associated Press)-- Since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, the New York Police Department has become one of the nation's most aggressive domestic intelligence agencies, targeting ethnic communities in ways that would run afoul of civil liberties rules if practiced by the federal government, an Associated Press investigation has found.

These operations have benefited from unprecedented help from the CIA, a partnership that has blurred the line between foreign and domestic spying.
The department has dispatched undercover officers, known as "rakers," into minority neighborhoods as part of a human mapping program, according to officials directly involved in the program. They've monitored daily life in bookstores, bars, cafes and nightclubs. Police have also used informants, known as "mosque crawlers," to monitor sermons, even when there's no evidence of wrongdoing.

Neither the city council, which finances the department, nor the federal government, which has given NYPD more than $1.6 billion since 9/11, is told exactly what's going on.

Many of these operations were built with help from the CIA, which is prohibited from spying on Americans but was instrumental in transforming the NYPD's intelligence unit.

much as I hate to link to HuffPo, it is a long article on their website, well worth reading:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/24/nypd-cia-terrorism_n_934923.html?view=print

[sabrina 1]

31. Thank you. I did see some of the news on that. What a horrible

Orwellian society this has become. People often ask the questions 'would the military and police forces turn on their own people if ordered to do so?' I have zero doubt they would.

This movement is exposing many things that badly needed to be exposed.

[dixiegrrrrl]

33. Shudder....I always hated to think that, but now.....shudder.

[Dover]

8. Great find! ...n/t

[fascisthunter]

11. so... cops represent the rich and not all the rest of us tax payers

well, fuck you too!

[Capitalocracy]

13. I think a great way to call attention to this would be to hire one

down on Wall Street.

[boston bean]

17. yes, to protect the protesters. good idea? I'll gladly pay for 4 hours of their time. nt

[Capitalocracy]

19. OK, let's get it done

Who do we talk to? Know anyone up in NYC?

[boston bean]

22. I don't know how to make it happen. I can provide some $$ for 4 hours of time.

If you can find a way to make it happen, pm me, immediately!

[lunatica]

15. It's the first step to a privatized police department

It would behoove us to watch how they act, because if it ever comes down to it, we may have a privatized police department. And at the time they'll boldly serve their masters' bidding above all else.

[dixiegrrrrl]

23. Yes. I wonder how many other cities are bought off?

This is scary. Between the CIA/Feds who gave 1.6 billion, and ONE bank, Chase, who gave 1.6 billion ( of our money, I might add)
that is a LOT of money for NYPD.
And Blackwater was being paid to train bunches of police depts across the country, remember?

[lunatica]

24. Yet these privatized police departments are double dipping

They're also still getting paid with out tax dollars. Isn't that grand? We pay them and they bash our heads in. Just like the banks and Wall Street and corporations we bail out.

Maybe they're realizing it's probably the end of that meal ticket. I hope so and I hope it scares them. I'm tired of them scaring me.

[truedelphi]

26. Very good points indeed. n/t

[lonestarnot]

30. And upon conviction, how many are ushered off to the private pen?

And soon to have letters delivered by a private mail service? Mmmm mmm mm. Bushitler ownership society. :puke:

[WillyT]

20. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!

:kick:

[lonestarnot]

29. Handy dandy arrangement there hugh.

[leveymg]

34. Does that mean the same corporations also get the services of the CIA for free? What a deal!

Sold!

[bobthedrummer]

35. dixiegrrrl, thanks for posting-k&r. Corporate fascist feudalism isn't democracy

RECALL SCOTT WALKER!

[Dover]

36. K&R! ...n/t

[Dover]

37. Kickin' it ...n/t

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