The rethug debate: now we hear about how everyone 'SUFFERED'

[babylonsister]

in their youth. Oye!

Is that a prerequisite?

[dkf]

1. You know compared to now everyone did "suffer".

Except back then it was normal.

American life has become excessive.

[babylonsister]

2. But I doubt any of them suffered, and that's what's so ironic. nt

[dkf]

11. The good thing is when you are a kid you don't know better.

Unless you don't have enough to eat or don't have running water or electricity. That really is suffering.

[Tsiyu]

13. No they did not

But repukes want to identify with the downtrodden, as if they are victims as well.

Your view of the "excesses" of modern life depend on where you sit.

From where I'm sitting, people are really hurting, there are not enough jobs paying living wages, sick friends can't get any health care, people with homes for sale can't even get a bite, older workers have either lost their retirement investments or can't even begin to save for retirement because they don't make enough to live on.

Excessive? Yeah. Right. Excessive misery.

[dkf]

15. Kids don't get that stuff.

That is adult misery.

[Tsiyu]

21. Really now

I think I just entered Happy Fluffy Land...


Of course kids suffer when their parents suffer. Of course the misery trickles down to them.

[dkf]

22. By that standard maybe the Repubs really did suffer.

[Tsiyu]

23. In Happy Fluffy Land

anything is possible, I suppose.

[cyglet]

16. But they have refrigerators! n/t

[Tsiyu]

19. and, if they're like two of my kids

saddled with massive debt just trying to get an education. Lucky things!!!!

And kids don't suffer at all when their parents are unemployed and the house is being foreclosed on and they can't go to the dentist.

No siree, these youth today have it easy as kings.

[Scuba]

3. They're clueless. n/t

[Jack Rabbit]

4. Yeah. Gee Dubyah suffered a drug bust

And he suffered a champagne unit in TANG. It was the only way a loser who couldn't keep his grades up could dodge the draft and the Vietnam War.

[mysuzuki2]

5. We all suffered in our youth. It's built into the adolescent mind

and is a relative thing. For example, I was oppressed by my parents because they wouldn't buy me my own car. I had to drive my dad's 53 Pontiac. Or so I thought at the time.

[cyglet]

6. I had no car!

Didn't drive until I was 21. Oh noes! Somehow, somehow, I endured. :sarcasm:

[mysuzuki2]

10. oh you poor baby! I used to feel sorry for myself because I had no car

and them I met a person who had no (fill in the blank here). Where is that sarcasm thingie you posted? Sometimes I could use it.

[ellisonz]

7. Post-Dubya Era GOP.

The oppression of Barack Obama shall not stand!:sarcasm:

[demigoddess]

8. No, it was just real life, and these guys didn't have the guts

to take it. So they worked real hard so they will never have to face real life ever again.

[babylonsister]

9. Or, they never knew suffering, but they're here to tell us how

they pulled themselves up by the bootstraps and persevered! :crazy:

[cyglet]

12. Or everyone else should

...because they've never had to do it

[ChoppinBroccoli]

14. That's One Thing I've Noticed About EVERY Right-Winger I've Ever Talked To

They ALL have a "rags to riches," "local boy makes good," "nobody ever gave me nothin'" story they just can't wait to share with you. Real "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" kind of stuff. Every last one of them has one. All of them came from nowhere and became successful simply by the sweat of their brow and no help from anyone. And you know what? I bet the vast majority of them actually BELIEVE it when they say it.

I was in a discussion with one of my friends from high school a while back over Facebook. He was relaying his "nobody ever gave me nuthin'" story too. The problem was, even though I hadn't spoken to him in years, I was friends with him back when we were kids. So I KNOW how he grew up. I remember how his family was rich and lived in a big house in a ritzy neighborhood. I remember how he got everything he ever wanted just by asking for it. I remember how it was like going to Disneyland when I, the kid who's father was a public school teacher, went over to his house. I remember going horseback riding with him on HIS OWN HORSE. I remember riding my broken-down bike over to his house to ride on his ATV with him. I remember him getting a car on his 16th birthday, while I didn't get a car until much later, and when I did, it was a broken-down jalopy that my parents bought for like $100 (no exaggeration), and only because they were tired of having to come pick me up from football practice every day. I also remember running into him later in life, when he was trying to get a solo chiropractic practice off the ground, and was being completely and totally financed by.............say it with me, now...........his parents.

I knew all that stuff, and here was on Facebook doling out advice about how other people should live based on his vast amount of knowledge on how to get by when nobody gives you nuthin'. And the really galling thing about is that I think he's actually gone all "Stepford Wives" and really BELIEVES that he achieved his station in life without any help from anyone.

Oh, and in case you're interested in what led to the lengthy "discussion," he had posted an article about how people should never get car loans. His comment on the article was something about how he remembered his dad telling him long ago that with the exception of getting an education and buying a house, you should NEVER take out a loan. So there you have it. Don't get suckered in. Do the SMART thing and plunk down that extra $20,000 you have just lying around on your car and don't waste your money on interest payments. Yeah, that's a great idea, in theory. But some of us live in the REAL WORLD where if you DON'T take out a car loan, you're hoofing it to work every day. Great, sound financial advice, Mr. Nobody Ever Gave Me Nuthin'.

Interesting post-script: shortly after that conversation, I discovered that this guy (who was actually my best friend in high school) had defriended me. And it had nothing to do with me airing his dirty laundry (I didn't write any of that stuff above). I simply disagreed with him and systematically shot down his points. That was IT. Guess Mr. Rough-And-Tumble, Hard-Scrabble-Life couldn't take someone exposing his worldview as a fraud.

[babylonsister]

18. Thanks for writing this out; I suspect a lot of them are like this,

thus their disdain for those less fortunate, even while trying to 'prove' they're in the same boat.

[malaise]

17. Well since I didn't feel like suffering tonight

I turned them off - Michelle Bachmann's first outburst was more than enough. :evilgrin:

[Tuesday Afternoon]

20. fuck that noise. what a pantload of horseshit.

[quaker bill]

24. I probably suffered more

does this make me more qualified?

[lunatica]

25. The Boner blubbers every time he says he had to sweep his daddy's bar

He suffered. Don't let anyone tell you that he didn't. Nepotism is harsh.

[RegieRocker]

26. Wait just one freakin minute

I thought those were the good times. Insane people.