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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 02:55 PM
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What? Biden just said it was a crime to go around assassinating people! (VIDEO)
From his interview on the Today Show, in this piece at USA Today entitled http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/10/obama-team-seeks-to-isolate-iran-over-dc-plot/1">Obama team 'making the case' against Iran over D.C. plot
It's not just the assassination, but the idea that you would assassinate a diplomat. That is something for the whole world, every nation in the world will, when they learn the facts of this, will be outraged that they would violate such an international norm, in addition to obviously being a crime to assassinate anybody, and in the process probably have killed scores of Americans.


Video is at the link!

What...what...what if the assassins have a secret memo from the assassination's sponsors saying they have permission? Isn't it OK then?

Oh U.S. Foreign Policy, how you puzzle me with your nonsensical convolutions!

:rofl:

PB
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 02:59 PM
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1. So did Hillary in her State Deparment twitter feed.
This is why I think The Onion should just print that feed as a coffee table book. :)
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:00 PM
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2. Self awareness: Not this administration's long suit
But thankfully, if you don't investigate instances of alleged wrong-doing, you never have to worry about sweeping some unpleasantness under the rug. It's just not there!
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:08 PM
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3. It all depends on who "anybody" is...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:10 PM
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6. Not to the Obama administration.
They claim they can target anyone, put them on a secret list and keep the evidence secret, too. So no, it doesn't depend on who "anybody" is, not at all.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:46 PM
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16. If the "anybody" is somebody we want to whack, it is legal
If the "anybody" is somebody some other country wants to whack, it is not.

That's been US policy since the first settler killed the first Indian.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:49 PM
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17. Now you're just normalizing assassinating people in secret.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:12 PM
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9. The Constitution does not permit denial of due process 'depending upon who we are talking about.'
What a silly concept. Really grasping there.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:09 PM
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4. Extra-judicial executions R us - n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:11 PM
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8. We can never say Dick Cheney didn't leave an enduring legacy. n/t
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SomethingFishy Donating Member (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:10 PM
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5. Welcome to Loony-As-Fuckistan.
Edited on Wed Oct-12-11 03:10 PM by SomethingFishy
It's not just for Republicans and Religious Nuts anymore.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:10 PM
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7. Come on. Let's not hold ourselves to any standards here, k?
I mean, the Constitution ... it's just an old piece of paper. Big deal. :sarcasm:
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:15 PM
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10. He also said Mubarak was a good friend and ally
and of the US and 'not a dictator' and that his family, Mubarak's, felt like family to Biden's.

We are seriously in need of rebuilding this democracy from the bottom up.

There is no way to just fix it with the same people in charge.

If this administration starts a war with Iran, they can kiss another term goodbye. Anyone who wants to see them win the next election, needs to be talking to them right now before they get this country in a war where people can actually fight back. I think we are being ruled by people who are insane. To even contemplate a war with Iran is insanity.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:16 PM
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11. With this crew -- never confuse what they say with what they do
total disconnect
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:17 PM
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12. We really need some sort of "IRONY ALERT" function. I mean, seriously,
Edited on Wed Oct-12-11 03:17 PM by coalition_unwilling
how can Biden say this shit with a straight face?
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:21 PM
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13. I figured it out! They're using the old "Red sky at night, assassinations are right. Red sky at...
...morning, assassins get warnings!"

It makes complete sense now! Wait, Ima feelin' dizzy. Time for a liedown.

PB
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ArcticFox Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:26 PM
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14. Such things are crimes only when not done by the U.S.
The United States has long disavowed the universality doctrine. Only other nations and their operators can commit war crimes, crimes agaist humanity, etc.

This is pretty much undisputed amongst our leadership since the Nazi trials.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:26 PM
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15. Oh really.

"That is something for the whole world, every nation in the world will, when they learn the facts of this, will be outraged that they would violate such an international norm, in addition to obviously being a crime to assassinate anybody.."

:dilemma:

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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 03:56 PM
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18. US foreign policy (and more) explained 30 words or less...
"...the people see that Wall Street is running our economic policy, that big oil is running our energy policy and the military industrial complex is determining our foreign policy..."


Alan Grayson

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show/#44853715

(Quote at 3:40 mark)


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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:28 PM
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19. k
for the night people.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:30 PM
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20. They considered that in the Alwaki case
And rejected the argument that it would be an assassination prohibited under that ground.

If you're going to disagree with them, fine, but don't pretend their position was other than what it is.
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PETRUS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 09:38 PM
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21. Oh dear me. nt
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