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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:11 PM
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Tell me if I'm wrong: Either Barack Obama or the Repug nominee will be our next President.
I believe that is damned near indisputable.
If so, do you, as a Democrat, think that we should let the good be the enemy of the perfect in the run-up to the election? Or if you find this to be a false dichotomy, just jump ahead to the General Election. Should we allow the good or so-so (depending on your viewpoint) to fall to the bad; or even the bad to take a back seat to the un-fucking-believably awful? I don't see any other realistic possibilities.
Where do you stand?
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:13 PM
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1. Is that just a roundabout way of asking if we intend to vote for Obama?
Yes I intend to vote for Obama.

Maybe not with the same enthusiasm I had when I voted for him in 2008 but I will vote for him.
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SlimJimmy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:36 PM
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8. +1. My sentiments exactly. (nt)
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teddy51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:14 PM
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2. Should we vote for Obama as opposed to a Republican/Tea Partier? Yes,
maybe holding nose.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:15 PM
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3. baring some completely unforeseen events those are the two choices
But I don't agree that it is the case of the good being the enemy of the perfect. It is a case of the very sad state of American politics as it is today being in competition with the far, far, far worse.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:15 PM
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4. Tell me if I'm wrong: Either it will rain tomorrow or it will not rain tomorrow
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:16 PM
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5. oh fer chrissakes
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

what? the standard *ya gotta stand with Obama* schtick getting old? :rofl:
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:24 PM
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6. There are some who feel that we need to blow up the party in order to re-build it as it once was.
I make no judgement, but am merely curious as to the numbers, as expressed on the pre-eminent Democratic message board on the web. Your inability to recognize, let alone understand an honest question ain't really my problem.
(And as for the ROFL - well, either you crack yourself up, or you are just easily amused.)
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:30 PM
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7. with Romney looking as the likely republican candidate
Edited on Wed Oct-12-11 07:30 PM by quinnox
I'm not all that concerned about what happens to be honest. Yea it would be better if Obama won, but Romney wouldn't be a disaster as president.

Romney compared to the previous republican Bush is like a vast distance between them to me.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 08:02 PM
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11. thanks for letting us know.
"I'm not all that concerned about what happens to be honest. Yea it would be better if Obama won, but Romney wouldn't be a disaster as president"
:rofl:
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:39 PM
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9. Can't let the sad sack be the enemy of the head exploding awful but we are still fucked
and getting more fucked as we raise the white flag to Reaganomics and ramped up neoconnery.

The loyalist/machine hacks are setting us up for a no win scenario. We all should have been pushing for good policies and a clear line not only from the astro turfed Teabaggers but Republicans in a traditional sense but instead we are supposed to be excited as the Cosby kids after good news and backslap our way onto corporate servitude under the "powerless" unitary executive.

I think we are heading to fuckload of fail either way but MAYBE Obama can serve as a four year holding action to allow us to throw off the yoke but continuing to pretend this kind of choice presents a real option is pretty damn close to insane.
We aren't going to vote our way out of this mess because we are only allowed to vote for pre-screened candidates who serve the establishment rather than the people.
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charmay Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:58 PM
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10. I am living under republican rule in Wisconsin,
and it's crap. I'm not happy with everything Obama has done, especially his stance on education, but it's a lot better than any republican will be. Some may think that Romney isn't too bad; some in Wisconsin thought that Scott Walker wasn't too bad either. Boy were they wrong! I have no doubt that Romney(if he gets the nomination), like Walker, will campaign from the center-right, and then, if elected, will drop right-wing bombs all over what's left of the middle class and the poor. I will definitely vote for Obama and all democrats.
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 08:03 PM
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12. Fuck yeah I'm voting for Obama.
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SomethingFishy Donating Member (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 08:10 PM
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13. How about you answer a question.
What is your responsibility as a citizen? Is it to not allow the "perfect to be the enemy of the good"( which btw with this administration is more like the "perfect to be the enemy of the sort of barely functional") or is it your responsibility to vote for the person you think is best able to lead the country out of this mess?

I am a registered independent who has never voted for a Republican and probably never will. Shit the Democrats aren't liberal enough for me, Republicans don't stand a chance.

IMHO if all the people who claimed that they have to vote for the Democratic Nominee because it's the lesser of two evils and voting for third party is throwing your vote away, would actually vote for a third party candidate then a third party would quickly become viable.

So if I see someone I like better than Obama and I vote for him, don't blame me if Obama loses, blame yourself for allowing the better candidate to lose because he didn't have a "D" next to his/her name.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 08:16 PM
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14. Rec up to 0 or some negative number...nt
Sid
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