Some analysts skeptical of alleged Iranian plot

[alp227]

Source: CNN

Did an elite branch of Iran's military handpick a divorced, 56-year-old Iranian-American used-car salesman from Texas to hire a hitman from a Mexican drug cartel to assassinate the ambassador to Saudi Arabia by blowing up a bomb in a crowded restaurant in Washington?

U.S. officials say they are certain the bizarre plot against Ambassador Adel Jubeir was real.

But some analysts say they are not. They find it unlikely that the Iranian government, or legitimate factions within, would be involved in such a tangled plot.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/12/us/analysis-iran-saudi-plot/index.html

[Poll_Blind]

1. Here's an excellent bit of video from Hillary Mann Leverett, mentioned in your...

...article, where she discusses the nonsensical nature of some of these allegations. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4wZoG3pr0A&feature=youtu.be&t=2m10s">Here

"There's no payoff."

PB

[spooked911]

14. thanks for the video!

[AverageJoe90]

2. I find it to be plausible, but.........

Going to war in Iran won't solve the damn problem, that's for sure. Not to mention the Iranian government is starting to get get REALLY desperate, especially given how successful the Arab Spring has been for the most part.

[Dover]

3. The alleged plot stinks. Maybe this has something to do with why we seem to be picking a fight ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2105754

[PatrynXX]

4. I just fine it odd that Boston police did something vile to the vets and our flag

and this crap was on the news later in the day. Kinda figured. Obama can't have that oh no..

[Faux pas]

5. I'm no analyst but I'm not too dull to know something's rotten

in DC. My cat could have come up with better fiction than that.

[jerseyjack]

6. I can haz cheezbergr .

[Le Taz Hot]

7. I find that this "breaking news" had

awfully convenient timing what with OWS sprouting up all across he country. I don't trust anything my government says anymore nor do I trust what their lapdogs, the MSM reports.

[LuvNewcastle]

11. +1

I just have a fundamental lack of trust for anything coming from our government. They could read Grimm's Fairy Tales during the news hour for all I care; I would pay just as much attention and give just as much consideration.

[MrMickeysMom]

15. exponent, infinity on that, LTH!

I find that CNN interview/discussion linked above with the Bush Administration lawyer to be MOST interesting...

I call BULLSHIT on the Obama Administration and all their DOGS OF WAR during a time of building AMERICAN CIVILIAN UNREST!

[bemildred]

24. Yep, the Mighty Wurlitzer has been spun up for this one.

Somebody is trying to generate some of that good waaaaaaar fever.

[goforit]

8. This is a hilarious story, I must say. Chich and Chong Sequel?

[So Shall Us]

9. Yellowcake from Niger

I bet it's not as good as the original, though.

[snagglepuss]

20. My first thought when I heard this story.

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[Scottybeamer70]

10. Some analysts..........and

some third graders could come up with a more sensible story than the one being thrown around.
I'm sure it doesn't have anything to do with taking a bit of pressure off Holder and the
"fast and furious" gun running situation........nah........wouldn't be that.
And, Hillary says, "No one could make up a story like that, eh"?..........nah.........not
even third graders, Hillary. Reminds me of a comment made by another SoS......"No one
would have believed they would fly planes into buildings"........Con. Rice

[Dj13Francis]

12. Wow.

I guess i'm not the only one who thinks this is all a bunch of trumped up BS meant to draw us into war.

[Enthusiast]

13. I don't believe a thing they say.

This is just propaganda to ramp up anti-Iran sentiment to prepare us for another war.

Don't believe the government will start a war with Iran? They just passed three trade deals against the wishes of a huge majority of the American people. They do not care what we want.

Remember, you will either be with them or against them -the chicken hawks.

[MrMickeysMom]

16. kick this all the way all day, please!!!!

[JohnyCanuck]

17. I say BULLSHIT! - See my sig line.

[UpInArms]

18. glad to see that there is some reality out there - and who would guess that it came from CNN?

'bout time - is all I can say.

There is not "plot."

There is only war.

When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die.

[Ghost Dog]

19. Is this still related to Big Dick's stovepipes,

or does the current President own them now?

'Some analysts', indeed. Some (CIA?) Augean stables still require cleaning out, it would seem.

[bemildred]

21. Count me among them.

Humans being as dumb as we are, it's not out of the question, but the story stinks.

[Delphinus]

22. I'm not an analyst

and I was skeptical about this when I heard the story - even though I am really, very impressed with Richard Clarke (who was talking about it).

[findrskeep]

23. When I saw this on the news the other night,

I knew in my heart, gut and everywhere else that it wasn't true. It didn't sound right and more importantly it didn't feel right. The PTB have been wanting to go to war with Iran for awhile now. So why not fabricate a reason to go? Gosh this sounds familiar, doesn't it? Thankfully we're all starting to see through our so called government.

[Hubert Flottz]

25. I have been thinking the same things some of you have...

Something to take the steam out of the demonstrations? Something to cause the sheep to take their eyes off the ball?

The DLC = THEM!(the 1%ers)(there really is a class war going on and it's world wide, IMHO)

[RufusTFirefly]

27. Lying as a lead-up to war?

Who knew?

Remember the Maine!!

[markpkessinger]

30. self-delete

[hobbit709]

28. I'm skeptical of this one.

[Romulox]

29. A baby, born yesterday and having just fallen off the turnip truck, would be skeptical

of this cockamamie story.

[woo me with science]

31. Thank god for "some analysts." We have to stop this crap in its tracks now,

We have to stop this crap in its tracks now, or we will be facing a juggernaut.

If they have a trump card to avoid serious reform of the banks, prevent the triumph of OWS, and preserve their oligarchy, this is it.

Our economy is wrecked. We have little real industry apart from the military industrial complex. The population is growing more restless and desperate. They need a war. I think we will see a steady, purposeful escalation of tensions with Iran and a drumbeat to come together as Americans against a ginned up threat.

And what better way for the private banking cartel to keep itself indispensable and protected from serious reform, than to ensure an even more urgent need for the loans they provide in order to fund a necessary war?

[chill_wind]

32. Some? Most. "Worst. Plot. Ever."

Worst. Plot. Ever.
BY AFSHON OSTOVAR | OCTOBER 13, 2011

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/10/13/worst_plot_ever

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/10/13/141326426/link-between-irans-quds-force-and-bomb-plot-doesnt-seem-to-fit

Afshon Ostovar, Ph.D. is a Middle East and Iran analyst in the International Affairs Group at CNA and is a member of the Iranian Studies Program team. His present research incorporates a number of topics, including Iran’s expanding regional influence and anti-regime insurgencies in Iran.

CNA Center for Naval Analysis
http://www.cna.org/centers/strategic-studies/team

[devilgrrl]

33. Skeptical? Go figure!

:sarcasm:

[Why Syzygy]

34. kick

[RFKHumphreyObama]

35. Where were these "some analysts"" and the CNN coverage

During the entre Bush Administration, the dubious "terror alerts", the WMD debacle et all?

Amazing how everyone becomes conspiracy theorists once a Democratic President is in office but when a Republican is in office, their objectivity in questioning government policy mysteriously disappears

[AverageJoe90]

36. You know what? I'm starting to ask the same question myself. n/t