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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 10:31 AM
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"How strong is the case against Iran plot suspect?" -- Jeffrey Toobin
Edited on Thu Oct-13-11 10:43 AM by KoKo
How strong is the case against Iran plot suspect?
By Jeffrey Toobin, CNN Senior Legal Analyst
updated 5:43 AM EST, Thu October 13, 2011


Of course, United States v. Arbabsiar has just begun, and so far we've only heard the government's side of the story. But enough information is out there to at least start asking some educated questions about how the case might unfold.

For starters, there is the issue of "CS-1," who appears to be the critical government witness in the case. The prosecution seems based in a significant amount on the Confidential Source, who met repeatedly with Arbabsiar and taped conversations with him. But who is he? According to the complaint, filed in New York federal court Tuesday, "CS-1 is a paid confidential source. Previously, CS-1 was charged in connection with a narcotics offense by authorities of a certain U.S. state. In exchange for CS-1's cooperation in various narcotics investigations, the State charges were dismissed."

It's the kind of description that sets a defense attorney to salivating. The argument for the defense might go like this: "CS-1 -- a crafty and duplicitous drug dealer -- knew he had to land a big fish to work off his beef. So CS-1, not Arbabsiar, concocted this ludicrous scheme to enlist Mexican drug cartels in an assassination on American soil. Jurors should be outraged that the American government is lining up with, and paying American taxpayer dollars to, a crook like him." And even according to the complaint, it was CS-1 (not Arbabsiar) who came up with the much-ballyhooed figure of $1.5 million as the price to the Iranians for the killing.


More at...
http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/12/opinion/toobin-iran-plot/

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AND...Professor Juan Cole chimes in with "Wag the Dog" scenario:

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Wagging the Dog with Iran’s Maxwell Smart

Posted on 10/13/2011 by Juan

I personally do not understand how the corporate media in the US can report the following things about Manssor Arbabsiar and then go on to repeat with a straight face the US government charges that he was part of a high-level Iranian government assassination plot.

It seems pretty obvious that Arbabsiar is very possibly clinically insane.

-snip-

The downward trajectory of Arbabsiar’s life, with his recent loss of his mortgage, all his businesses, and his second wife, along with his obvious cognitive defect, suggests to me that he may have been descending into madness.

I hypothesized yesterday that Arbabsiar and his cousin Gholam Shakuri might have been part of an Iranian drug gang. But after these details have emerged about the former, I don’t think he could even have done that. Indeed, I have now come to view the entire story as a fantasy.

That a monumental screw-up like Arbabsiar could have thought he was a government secret agent is perfectly plausible. I’m sure he thought all kinds of things. But that he was actually one is simply not believable.

More at.......
http://www.juancole.com/




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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 10:58 AM
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1. Bush/Obama the difference please? Lying foreign policy
to start wars.
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The Second Stone Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 11:05 AM
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2. Let's not assume that the US government set this up
it could be a foreign government, or perhaps the real thing. Then again, it could be a some idiots in the US government. Look what the FBI did to Hatfill and Ivins and Jewel.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 11:32 AM
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7. Let's not assume that the US government set this up? What role did the FBI have in this?
Remember yesterday? The headline was the FBI uncovered this plot, I believed they found and built this ass clown.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 06:57 PM
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10. Seems like it could have been FBI entrapment...but there are still articles coming in
with more and more questions. Hopefully it will sort out in the next few weeks.
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 01:21 PM
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8. And I bet we will find WMD in Iraq nt
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 11:07 AM
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3. Less sneering and more fearing!
Dammit, how are we gonna gin up a shiny new war if you people keep lookin' behind that curtain? You used to just take these cries of wolf at face value and start runnin' wherever we told you to run (except for a few dirty fucking hippies, but nobody ever paid any attention to you).
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 11:07 AM
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4. Since he's cooperating with the investigation, the case against him matters little.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 11:17 AM
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6. The case against him - huge

As you point out they had him talking non stop for a week, and each day he signed a waiver of attorney form.

There is $ 100,000 money that was sent.

Phone calls asking him when the bomb was going to go off.



This guy is cooked.


No the Iranian government wasn't behind this. Somebody in Iran was.

Most logical candidate? Some rival to Ahmadinejad who wanted him to look stupid.



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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 06:04 PM
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9. More questions are emerging later today from CNN ..others.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 11:09 AM
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5. r
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 03:12 AM
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11. Cole's blog scrolls downward.
It is always helpful to post the permalink instead of the blog link.

http://www.juancole.com/2011/10/wagging-the-dog-with-irans-maxwell-smart.html
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