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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 12:40 PM
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Operation Payback Group 'Anonymous' Issues Open Letter To Glenn Beck
Operation Payback Group 'Anonymous' Issues Open Letter To Glenn Beck
Glynnis MacNicol | Dec. 16, 2010, 8:45 AM | 7,510 | comment 33

Mr. Beck,

We have no problem with those who criticize us. We understand that freedom of speech includes the right to speak out in criticism of those whom you may not agree with. We have many critics, and we respect their first amendment rights.

However, in your recent comments, it seems that you and/or your editing team have mixed up a few details during your research on us. We at Anonymous wish to set the record straight, so that you and your audience will be better informed about us and our objectives. Hopefully, this will reduce some of the anxiety you may feel towards us in the process.

You see, Mr. Beck, we are not an organization. We have no leaders. We have no official spokesperson. We have no age, race, ethnicity, color, nationality, or gender. Anyone who claims to speak for all of us is, quite frankly, a liar. To be clear, the gentleman known as Coldblood was not sanctioned by anyone but himself to speak on our behalf.

Your attempts to formally link Anonymous to Wikileaks were misguided. We are not formally linked to Mr. Assange, to Wikileaks, or the break-off operation, Openleaks. To reiterate, we are not an organization of any kind.

You spoke of revolution as though it is necessarily a bad thing. Let us remind you that America was founded upon revolution. Furthermore, the world we live in today is the result of numerous revolutions that have occurred throughout human history – many of them being positive, and resulting in advancements for all of humanity.

You seem to imply that we are revolutionaries. We do not object to this - in fact, it pleases us.

Neither Wikieaks nor its founder have been charged with any crime in connection to any of the published leaks. Thus, we at Anonymous see any actions directed at silencing Wikileaks as an assault on our freedom of information and the freedom of those at Wikileaks to publish as they see fit.

Whether young or old, political or apolitical, moderate or hard-liner, the issue of freedom of speech and information affects us all. Please do not aspire to make the Wikileaks issue more divisive than it already is, Mr. Beck.

We embrace everyone from all walks of life, from all corners of the earth, to join us in our quest to protect and further enhance not only our rights to freedom of information and freedom of speech, but all of our human freedoms.

You are welcome to talk to us at anytime. We will answer any further questions you may have. After further dialogue, perhaps then you will see that you and we are not so different. Anonymous can be anyone, anywhere, at anytime, and that includes you and your audience as well, Mr. Beck. We simply wish to see the freedoms of all Americans and all citizens of Earth to be at the very least maintained, and wherever possible, strengthened and enhanced to their fullest extent.

Signed,

Anonymous


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/operation-payback-group-anonymous-issues-open-letter-to-glenn-beck-2010-12#ixzz18IVDYfUC
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 12:44 PM
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1. Anonymous obviously doesn't understand that Glenn BecKKK has a 1st grade reading level.
He won't understand ANY of that!

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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 12:47 PM
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3. dttio hopehoops
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 01:36 PM
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8. I think it was actually written for us
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 02:33 PM
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22. Yeah, I sort of assumed that. If it was written for BecKKK it would have been in crayon.
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 03:14 PM
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26. So true!
So true! :rofl:
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 03:27 PM
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31. Or chalk.
:evilgrin:
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 01:26 AM
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46. chalk, definitely...
now class, let's spell "Oligarhy" :)
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:49 AM
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64. As long as it's not paste
Glenn Beck would just eat it!
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Kievan Rus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 06:11 PM
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39. They'll have to write it in crayon for him
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 07:08 PM
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40. not so much reading level but
comprehension. I seriously doubt the glenster can comprehend any of the principles set forth in that most excellent letter.
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MedicalAdmin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 05:49 AM
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54. Will he see the bait for the trap or the threat?
They invite him to contact them, presumably on 4chan, which would provide them with access to his systems. I hope he is stupid enough to do it live on his show. That's the bait.

The threat is implicit in the invitation to join them.

But I believe that Beck will not take them seriously and will attempt to use them for ratings. Or at least I hope so.
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 12:45 PM
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2. They are trying to reason with Glenn Beck!!!!!!!
Thats like believing in the Tooth Fairy!!!!I take that back the Tooth Fairy has more credibility!!!!!:applause: :applause: :applause:
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 01:29 PM
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4. Oh crap
he is going to run out of chalk and tears over this.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 01:31 PM
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5. "Anyone who claims to speak for all of us is, quite frankly, a liar."
Including the writer. Whoever wrote this is no more or no less the voice of Anonymous than is anyone else.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 01:41 PM
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9. I can't believe no one else caught that. n/t
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 01:45 PM
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10. That occurred to me, too, as I was reading it
But what the hell; it will keep Beck's little mind squirming like a toad for a good 48 hours or more.
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tiny elvis Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 05:32 PM
Response to Reply #10
37. riders on the storm/excellent quote/nt
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 06:19 AM
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55. WOW! You gave Beck's attention span way more credit than I would have! LOL!
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 01:50 PM
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11. the key word in that sentence being *all* of us...
The writer never said he was speaking for the whole group, did he? As long as there are millions of computers connected to the internet worldwide, there's always going to be a ghost in a machine somewhere. They are everywhere, they are nowhere, they are you, they are me, they are... Anonymous

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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 01:50 PM
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12. Also, "we are not an organization" cracks me up.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 01:55 PM
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14. They're like the wind
Edited on Thu Dec-16-10 01:56 PM by MrScorpio
Both everywhere and nowhere!

Puff!
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 02:07 PM
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17. Well, now I'll have that song in my head the rest of the day...
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 02:09 PM
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19. Looks like my power of suggestion is still going strong
That's exactly what I was aiming for.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 02:39 PM
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24. I'm just a fool to believe...
...they're like the wind....

:rofl:
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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 02:06 PM
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16. The writer isn't claiming to speak for all of Anonymous anyway.
Plus if Anonymous doesn't like Anonymous, well... Anonymous will be made less so.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 02:07 PM
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18. They use the word "we" 20 times and sign the letter, "Anonymous." nt
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 04:15 AM
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50. You do know what the word "they" means right?
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dbmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 03:21 PM
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28. And the writer would agree with you. n/t
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 03:47 PM
Response to Reply #5
34. Anonymous seems to revel in contradiction
as does Mr. Beck
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 06:07 PM
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38. From what I've seen, certain decisions & publications are produced through the collective effort
Edited on Thu Dec-16-10 06:14 PM by snot
of whichever Anons choose to participate at the time. E.g., they literally held votes on targets for DDoS attacks -- they'd spread word that a vote would be held at a certain time and virtual space, and the vote would be held open for a certain amount of time, and anyone who wanted to vote could go, and the results determined the next action. And I believe that on certain formal letters and press releases, something similar has happened: someone or group posts a draft and circulates word about where to find it, and everyone who wants to is free to propose changes.

Any Anons who disagree with thee resulting decisions or texts, of course, are free to disclaim them and/or take their own action as they see fit.

So yes, there have to be caveats when trying to generalize about what the Anons think or are doing; but I think it can also be said that some actions and statements are more representative than others.

They're a fascinating phenomenon and, though some of them seem to have a rather juvenile penchant for looking/sounding sinister, seem generally to be on the side of the angels.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 07:09 PM
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42. It is clear that we are
all anonymous.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 02:04 AM
Response to Reply #5
48. I doubt very much that the writer would disagree with you.
He or she would probably be the first to agree!
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 09:29 AM
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62. Before I even got to that line I was wondering who the writer was...
as he or she seemed to be writing with some sense of authority.

I like the letter, but it's truly hilarious if you apply some critical thinking to it. And who knows? Perhaps that's the point.
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JackInGreen Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:21 AM
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63. You can be almost gaurenteed though
that alot of Anonymous would agree, just as many as would not.
:D
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 01:33 PM
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6. recommend
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TCJ70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 01:33 PM
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7. They kind of play into Becks paranoia at the end there...
Implying that they could be anyone, anywhere, or part of his audience...
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 01:54 PM
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13. Cyber Anarchists vs Right Wing wackos...
There's a computer game in there somewhere
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 01:57 PM
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15. Shadowrun? :3 nt
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 02:11 PM
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20. Nice!
Can't say I've ever seen a Shadowrun reference on DU.
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 02:18 PM
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21. LOL
When we elected the first Dragon-American as President, I thought he would stand up for us a little more strongly, you know?
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 03:19 PM
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27. That's why they say, "Never deal with a dragon." n/t
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 04:04 PM
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35. He didn't do much, of anything really, chummer...
Edited on Thu Dec-16-10 04:04 PM by TheMightyFavog
Seein' as how the Big D bought it in front of the Watergate mere hours after his inauguration.
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 02:34 PM
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23. I'm reminded of a quote from Fight Club.
Tyler Durden: Hi. You're going to call off your rigorous investigation. You're going to publicly state that there is no underground group. Or... these guys are going to take your balls. They're going to send one to the New York Times, one to the LA Times press-release style. Look, the people you are after are the people you depend on. We cook your meals, we haul your trash, we connect your calls, we drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep. Do not... fuck with us.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 03:21 PM
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29. Nothing said at Anonymous is that rude. They seem very reasonable to me
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 04:28 PM
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36. That is true.
Perhaps I'm just projecting my own fantasies toward Beck onto Anonymous. They're much more civil than I am. But then again, my name is Robert Paulsen. ;)
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 07:09 PM
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41. /b/ is known for its class and decorum. nt
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 07:42 PM
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43. First thing I thought too
not that I would know...:evilgrin:
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 03:25 PM
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30. wow
a FIGHT CLUB reference

i can't wait to show mr. pete

peace, kpete
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 09:38 PM
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45. Well, his name IS robertpaulsen
His name is Robert Paulsen...His name is Robert Paulsen... :evilgrin:
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 03:03 PM
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25. I love how this is going to make beck
really reach hard into his underwear to pull out a turd and play with it on camera.

He doesnt' know who or where to aim his feigned put on high dudgeon, so it will drive him nuts. Anonymous could be the producer talking into beck's IFB during his show for all he knows.
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blackspade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 03:27 PM
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32. Rock on!
:headbang:
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 03:36 PM
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33. Oh goody gumdrops Batman
I can see Beck now, with tear tracks trailed down his chalk dusted checks, answering this on his chalkboard for his viewers. First he will have to consult the Historical dept, of the Great Beck University on Revolutions and their outcome. Then the English Dept, on the definition of the word anonymous. This could be weeks and weeks of pure entertainment.

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lifesbeautifulmagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 09:21 PM
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44. personally, I hope Beck takes the bait.
Like you said, it could be weeks and weeks of very, very pure, fun entertainment.
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Mother Of Four Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 01:57 AM
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47. Clever....clever...clever!
:rofl:

Oh dear me...I have to catch my breath. This, is pure gold- GOLD I tell you. Beck will roll in this like a dog rolls in icky smelling poo dirt, then he'll carry it over the airwaves and into more homes than you can shake a stick at. To people who watch him to roll their eyes, to others who hang on his every word, to others that love to laugh at his delusions.

Whoever wrote that, (taps her forehead) super smart. Millions of dollars over the next few weeks of advertising gold.

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bobburgster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 03:55 AM
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49. Happy with anything....
that might make the paranoid Beck stop and think....because then he won't talk.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 04:31 AM
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51. Nice
K & R
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 04:32 AM
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52. kick
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NuclearDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 04:35 AM
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53. Uh oh, Glenn Beck just opened himself up to a world of shit
This'll be fun :evilgrin:
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jerseyjack Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 07:18 AM
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56. Given that Anonymous has no one speaking for it,
how can he sign his letter, "Anonymous?"
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 07:24 AM
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57. Their nicely worded message is clear - fuck with us at your own peril
What Anonymous does is up to Mr Beck and how he reacts.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 07:46 AM
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58. Rec for a most awesome letter. nt
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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:06 AM
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59. Has Glenn commented on Anonymous directly yet?


Theres a bit of video here, he only mentions anonymous in passing though. I think this was before the letter.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/is-glenn-beck-playing-with-fire-by-engaging-with-anonymous-and-operation-payback/
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Jester Messiah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 09:14 AM
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60. Good stuff, but as the letter states, no one is allowed to speak for anonymous.
Thus, the letter writer is acting on his own initiative, not that of anonymous. The true anonymous speaks only through deeds. Er... so I assume. :-)
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Mafia Killer Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 09:19 AM
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61. What? Me Worry? pt. 2
if you watch Glenn Beck.....look real close.
you can see Jeff Dunhan pulling strings.

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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 12:17 PM
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65. I believe Mr. Beck is an idiot but it doesnt matter. He is making millions. He will not listen to
reason.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 12:18 PM
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66. NO ONE should ever validate Glenn Becks existence!
Epic fail.
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