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vets74 Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 10:10 PM
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Matt Taibbi weighs in on Occupy Wall Street. Six point plan to hit 'em where they hurt.
Here it is:

My Advice to the Occupy Wall Street Protesters -- in Rolling Stone on the 12th

1. Break up the monopolies....

2. Pay for your own bailouts. A tax of 0.1 percent....

3. No public money for private lobbying....

4. Tax hedge-fund gamblers. For starters, repeal... carried-interest tax break....

5. Change the way bankers get paid.....

Plus making them put all their chips on the table.

Read the article to see what all that means.

Comments are free, as usual.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 10:45 PM
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1. kick
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 10:54 PM
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2. Excellent - love tax the hedge fund Thingy. Nt
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Kissell Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 11:00 PM
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3. Good start, but...
I don't think you're going to get rid of the protesters without stopping the wars and increasing tax on all top earners, corporations and people alike. These are all good ideas, but you've gotta tax the rich and bring the troops home to appease this crowd. A lot of people would like to send some banksters to jail, but I agree, it is much more realistic that the movement can be appeased by taxing them.

No public money for private lobbying is a no brainer... but I think a lot of people would like to see no lobbying all together. To get financial leverage out of politics. I've even heard an idea about getting rid of career politicians and making district representation a mandatory duty of citizens, like jury duty, where your day job is protected while you serve your term for your district. I wouldn't recommend a random person being president, that's too much power for one random guy... but changing the house to lottery representation, I'm for that. Then we would have balance of power, the public could override the president and the president could veto the public if they didn't have 2/3rds... that would end a lot of the problems we have with corporations and special interests paying off career politicians.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 11:02 PM
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4. How about : Corporations are not people...
...and money does not equal "speech"
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 04:44 AM
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10. That would do it.
Corporations are not people and money does not equal "speech" no matter how they rule on a specific case. It just undermines their credibility further. It's an absurd notion on its face.


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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 11:22 PM
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5. This article is a MUST READ for the protesters! I think Taibbi is right on.
(He's adorable, too! What do you think, ladies?)

Great excerpt:

(...)for me this is a deeply personal thing, because this issue of how to combat Wall Street corruption has consumed my life for years now, and it's hard for me not to see where Occupy Wall Street could be better and more dangerous. I'm guessing, for instance, that the banks were secretly thrilled in the early going of the protests, sure they'd won round one of the messaging war.

Why? Because after a decade of unparalleled thievery and corruption, with tens of millions entering the ranks of the hungry thanks to artificially inflated commodity prices, and millions more displaced from their homes by corruption in the mortgage markets, the headline from the first week of protests against the financial-services sector was an old cop macing a quartet of college girls.

That, to me, speaks volumes about the primary challenge of opposing the 50-headed hydra of Wall Street corruption, which is that it's extremely difficult to explain the crimes of the modern financial elite in a simple visual. The essence of this particular sort of oligarchic power is its complexity and day-to-day invisibility: Its worst crimes, from bribery and insider trading and market manipulation, to backroom dominance of government and the usurping of the regulatory structure from within, simply can't be seen by the public or put on TV. There just isn't going to be an iconic "Running Girl" photo with Goldman Sachs, Citigroup or Bank of America – just 62 million Americans with zero or negative net worth, scratching their heads and wondering where the hell all their money went and why their votes seem to count less and less each and every year.

(Same link as in OP's)
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 11:48 PM
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6. "...the 50-headed hydra of Wall Street corruption..."
Great line.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 12:21 AM
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7. The entire article was amazing. He's got some really good advice & he knows his subject well.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 12:46 AM
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8. It's thrilling to see financial analyses described with so much oomph
that the articles all become enjoyable for a much wider readership than usual.

Taibbi actually makes an impact on the culture at large and deserves credit for it.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 01:21 AM
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9. Oh yes, a sign of a good writer is that they explain a tedius subject in an awesome read.
Edited on Mon Oct-17-11 01:23 AM by pacalo
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vets74 Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 03:58 PM
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11. The one thing he misses is the MANHATTAN PROSECUTOR.
Primary jurisdiction for fraud cases.

Never happens.

Never an investigation.

Walking Monopoly cards for free out-of-jail.
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Remember Me Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 06:52 PM
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12. He's got some great ideas there
Hope OWS listens.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 06:58 PM
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13. Wow, this is a great article.
I didn't know hedge-fund gamblers didn't pay taxes for their bullshittery.
Who the fuck doesn't have to pay taxes when they do that kind of shit?
They even make gamblers in Vegas pay fooking taxes for crying out loud!!
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vets74 Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 07:26 AM
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14. Thanks.
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