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AverageJoe90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 04:13 PM
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Does anybody have some info on Bill Schmalz, one of the pair of the real AdBusters instigators?
Well, folks, I've been doing some research on AdBusters lately after the longtime alternative radio host Dave Emory posted his article on his SpitfireList site(unfortunately, my first post didn't go over so well so I had that topic closed), and it showed that Kalle Lasn, one of the creators of AdBusters had a somewhat shady & mysterious past(still looking into that)......though thankfully, he wasn't quite the radical Jew-hater I thought he was(truth is, I had confused him with neo-Nazi Rocky Suhayda, who happened to be quoted in the same article); however, he did actually post a claim, back in 2003/04, that Jews supposedly made up about half of the neo-cons, so that has to be taken into account.

However, though, I have little information on either of the two primary AdBusters instigators, Bill Schmalz in particular,(the other being senior editor Micah White), other than a little bit about his film-making work. If anyone can get some more info on this guy, that'd be great, because I have to get off of this computer in a minute.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 04:19 PM
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1. Persons associated with the Project for the New American Century
Edited on Mon Oct-17-11 04:20 PM by FarCenter
Wiki has a list of Persons associated with the PNAC, so you can make up your mind regarding the ethnic composition of the neo-cons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century#Persons_associated_with_the_PNAC

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
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AverageJoe90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 08:04 PM
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13. Thanks, but I never believed in Lasn's statement anyhow.
Still, though, those two links will be pretty useful for debunking fringe/extreme right agitprop on the 'Net. Thanks for the info. =) (particularly on YouTube.)
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 04:22 PM
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2. Now why would you be trying to discredit Adbusters?
And by extension I assume, the OWS protests as well?
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 04:29 PM
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5. Because that's what the 1% and republicans do
they learn something new and then boom! they destroy it, then start pointing
ha ha ha see we told you they were just mobs.

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AverageJoe90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 07:49 PM
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10. Nope. It's Kalle Lasn I'm worried about. Everyone else I mentioned seems to be okay.
Edited on Mon Oct-17-11 08:00 PM by AverageJoe90
And yes, I do support OWS by the way.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 04:26 PM
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3. So is that who the 1% and republicans wants to go after?

:wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 04:28 PM
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4. It looks like it and it looks like they expect us to do their research for them!
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 04:33 PM
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6. No telling
they've always counted on the weak amongs us.

Progressives can be too friendly sometimes, too giving that's why
we always end up losing.
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AverageJoe90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 08:00 PM
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12. And that's why I believe we need to keep countering the B.S. nt
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 04:38 PM
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7. The claim about the neocons is touchy...
Edited on Mon Oct-17-11 04:48 PM by blogslut
but true.

From http://books.google.com/books?id=XQETzHOtgD8C&pg=PT70&lpg=PT70&dq=neocons+Conservatives+Without+Conscience&source=bl&ots=RI8seAcFUa&sig=oB2gcpBhv5wXLRGd-8v7AO73ANc&hl=en&ei=eJ6cToWGE8SBsgLKy4yoCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false">Conservatives Without Conscience by John Dean:

Neocons: Intellectuals who drifted from the far left to the center to the right, carrying their flagship magazine, Commentary, with them. They are New York based. Neocons tend to be militant internationalists. They publish their own inside-the-beltway weekly, The Weekly Standard.


EDIT ADD PERSONAL COMMENT: You use the word "instigators" in reference to AdBusters & OWS. Shall I take this to mean you do not support the Occupation?

If you do not, can you explain why not?
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AverageJoe90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 07:48 PM
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9. I do support OWS. Sorry about the wording, I was in a hurry.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 05:00 PM
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8. We don't much appreciate hit-and-runs on DU. Just FYI.
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AverageJoe90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 07:59 PM
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11. Should definitely clarify some things.
Just wanted to clarify some things:

1.)I do support O.W.S.
2.)I already believe Lasn's claim was a lie(thanks for the Wiki link anyway.).
3.)I wasn't trying to troll or anything(because that isn't how I roll, if you can pardon the slang. :)). However, though, I am a little disturbed by the fact that Bill Schmalz and Micah White are largely being ignored, while Lasn gets all the credit; that, and I am rather concerned about Lasn's past idiocy regarding the neo-cons could be another thing used to try to discredit us here, particularly since he's being made out as the head honcho(which he wasn't).

My entire reason for posting this is out of sincere concern. I really want O.W.S. to succeed, but we need to try to keep combatting the B.S. or we'll be screwed. That's what the crooks in the 1% are hoping for. And we have to counter the propaganda and misconceptions, like we have been. Hope this clears things up.
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