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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 09:06 AM
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The Untold Story in Libya
In May 2010, Libya was voted on to the UN Human Rights Council by a huge majority. The UN Watch's campaign to remove Libya from the Human Rights Council began immediately.

In March, 2011, a report, containing positive quotes from UN diplomatic delegations in many countries, was due to be presented by the UN Human Rights Council, leading to a Resolution commending Libya's progress in a wide aspect of human rights (listed in the article). March 19, 2011, the attack on Libya began.

Libya was one of only five countries without a Rothschild model central bank, Quaddafi openly discussed, in 2009, the nationalization of US, UK, Germany, Spain, Norway, Canada and Italy's oil companies, switching to the gold dinar - a single African currency that would serve as an alternative to the U.S. dollar and allow African nations to share the wealth. Libya has an abundance of water - Gaddafi’s Great Man-Made River Project project offers limitless amounts of water for Libyans and would allow them to be totally self-sufficient. In the near-future, water will be the next resource equated with money and power, other countries may be dependent on its reserves. A self-sufficient, dictator-ruled nation with control over some of the world’s most precious resource waves a big red warning flag.

In 2010 Gaddafi made a motion to the UN General Assembly to investigate the circumstances of the invasion of Iraq. He was also wasting the west's ....... 'libya's' oil on free education, housing, tolerance of immigrants, raising the standard of living in Africa, lowering infant mortality while raising life expectancy.

Many of these things are completely similar to what we learned of Iraq.

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Yes, simply put, Nato's member nations are trying to steer back Libya Central Bank into the mainstream financial structure, under the watching eyes of the World Bank and the International Monetary Funds, to provide (reconstruction) funds to Libya with hefty interests payments - and transform a country which was free of debts into a heavily indebted country - as done everywhere else in sub-Saharan African countries.

http://businessafrica.net/africabiz/graphs2.php
http://businessafrica.net/africabiz/arcvol2/is124front.php#change

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From a 'no fly zone to all out bombing of targets called out by rebels'. NATO's high-precision bombing preceeded 'rebel' incursions.

http://antemedius.com/content/libya-r2p-now-right-2-plunder

"It's now common knowledge that British SAS, French intelligence, US Central Intelligence Agency assets, Qatar special forces and mercenaries of all stripes were parachuted as boots on the ground for months, planning and training the "rebels" and in close coordination with that philanthropic prodigy, NATO.

That was never the UN mandate - but who cares? NATO/GCC paid the bills, NATO conducted the bombing and NATO/GCC will "stabilize" the mess, according to a 70-page plan leaked by the British to Rupert Murdoch'sz Times of London."

"Expect local - and global - fireworks as far as grabbing the loot is concerned. Without even considering the (still unexplored) oil and gas wealth, Libya's foreign assets are worth at least $150 billion. Libya's central bank, now about to be privatized, has no less than 143.8 tons of gold. Then there's at least a millennium supply of fresh water, which had started to be harnessed by Gaddafi via the spectacular, multibillion dollar Great Man-Made River (GMR) project."

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"Oil-rich but with a relatively small population of 6.6. million, Gadhafi's Libya welcomed hundreds of thousands of black Africans looking for work in recent decades. "

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/01/libya-rebels-black-africans_n_944736.html

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NATO’s War on Libya is an Attack on African Development–Dan Glazebrook

6 09 2011

http://globalciviliansforpeace.com/tag/africom/

To prevent this ‘threat of African development’, the Europeans and the USA have responded in the only way they know how – militarily. Four years ago, the US set up a new “command and control centre” for the military subjugation of the Africa, called AFRICOM. The problem for the US was that no African country wanted to host them; indeed, until very recently, Africa was unique in being the only continent in the world without a US military base. And this fact is in no small part, thanks to the efforts of the Libyan government.
Before Gaddafi’s revolution deposed the British-backed King Idris in 1969, Libya had hosted one of the world’s biggest US airbases, the Wheelus Air Base; but within a year of the revolution, it had been closed down and all foreign military personnel expelled.
More recently, Gaddafi had been actively working to scupper AFRICOM. African governments that were offered money by the US to host a base were typically offered double by Gaddafi to refuse it, and in 2008 this ad-hoc opposition crystallised into a formal rejection of AFRICOM by the African Union.

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The force used by the occupier to displace the old regime always makes sure the new regime is supine and complaint. The National Transitional Council, made up of former Gadhafi loyalists, Islamists and tribal leaders, many of whom detest each other, will be the West’s vehicle for the reconfiguration of Libya. Libya will return to being the colony it was before Gadhafi and the other young officers in 1969 ousted King Idris, who among other concessions had let Standard Oil write Libya’s petroleum laws. Gadhafi’s defiance of Western commercial interests, which saw the nationalization of foreign banks and foreign companies, along with the oil industry, as well as the closure of U.S. and British air bases, will be reversed. The despotic and collapsed or collapsing regimes in Tunisia, Libya, Egypt and Syria once found their revolutionary legitimacy in the pan-Arabism of Egypt’s Gamal Abdel Nasser. But these regimes fell victim to their own corruption, decay and brutality. None were worth defending. Their disintegration, however, heralds a return of the corporate and imperial power that spawned figures like Nasser and will spawn his radical 21st century counterparts.

Libya: Here We Go Again

Monday 5 September 2011
by: Chris Hedges, Truthdig | Op-Ed

http://www.truthout.com/libya-here-we-go-again/1315225388

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LIBYA: Rebels execute black immigrants while forces kidnap others

http://somalilandpress.com/libya-rebels-execute-black-immigrants-while-forces-kidnap-others-20586

"Many Africans have virtually nothing after years in Libya, many have been looted, robbed, while others saw their living quarters and apartments go in flames. Now they are praying to God to send them home.
While the international leaders are busy drafting resolutions to dismantle Muammar Gaddafi, the African Union has not yet commented on the situation in Libya.

Meanwhile, the International Criminal Court is said to have started a formal inquiry into possible crimes against humanity in Libya that will investigate the Libyan regime."

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JohnPilger.com
8 September 2011

http://johnpilger.com/articles/hail-to-the-true-victors-of-rupert-s-revolution

..."I quote that not so much for its Orwellian quality but as a model of journalism's role in justifying "our" bloodbaths in advance.
This is Rupert's Revolution, after all. Gone from the Murdoch press are pejorative "insurgents". The action in Libya, says The Times, is "a revolution... as revolutions used to be". That it is a coup by a gang of Muammar Gaddafi's ex cronies and spooks in collusion with Nato is hardly news.

The self-appointed "rebel leader", Mustafa Abdul Jalil, was Gaddafi's feared justice minister. The CIA runs or bankrolls most of the rest, including America's old friends, the Mujadeen Islamists who spawned al-Qaeda.
They told journalists what they needed to know: that Gaddafi was about to commit "genocide", of which there was no evidence, unlike the abundant evidence of "rebel" massacres of black African workers falsely accused of being mercenaries. European bankers' secret transfer of the Central Bank of Libya from Tripoli to "rebel" Benghazi by European bankers in order to control the country's oil billions was an epic heist of little .

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Sirte a 'living hell,' says aid group

http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/news/content/view/full/110273

Tuesday 04 October 2011 by Our Foreign Desk Printable Email

A Red Cross team finally entered the besieged Libyan town of Sirte yesterday and delivered urgently needed surgical supplies to treat about 200 wounded people.

Nato has repeatedly targeted Sirte in its seven-month bombing campaign that enabled armed rebels to topple the government of Muammar Gadaffi and gain control of most of the oil-rich state.

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2051237
bvar22:

The Untold Story in Libya:

How The West Cooked Up The People's Uprising

http://whowhatwhy.com/2011/08/31/now-that-we%E2%80%99re... /

The Global Disaster Capitalists never let a good disaster go to waste.
In the case of Libya, they used their Enforcement Arm (NATO & The US Military) to CREATE a disaster where there was none.

” For all his dictatorial megalomania, Gaddafi is a committed pan-African - a fierce defender of African unity. Libya was not in debt to international bankers. It did not borrow cash from the International Monetary Fund for any "structural adjustment". It used oil money for social services - including the Great Man Made River project, and investment/aid to sub-Saharan countries. Its independent central bank was not manipulated by the Western financial system. All in all a very bad example for the developing world.”

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MD27Ak01.html

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Libya: Oil, Banks, Water, the United Nations, and America’s Holy Crusade by Felicity Arbuthnot

Posted on April 5, 2011 by dandelionsalad

.."The country was commended: “for the progress made in the achievement of the Millennium Development Goals, namely universal primary education (and) firm commitment (to) health care.” There was “praise” for “cooperation with international organizations in combating human trafficking and corruption ..” and for cooperation with “the International Organization for Migration.”

“Progress in enjoyment of economic and social rights, including in the areas of education, health care, poverty reduction and social welfare” with “measures taken to promote transparency”, were also cited. Malaysia: “Commended the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya for being party to a significant number of international and regional human rights instruments.” Promotion: “of the rights of persons with disabilities” and praise for “measures taken with regard to low income families”, were cited...

.."So how does the all tie together? Libya, in March being praised by the Majority of the UN., for human rights progress across the board, to being the latest, bombarded international pariah? A nation’s destruction enshrined in a UN., Resolution?
The answer lies in part with the Geneva based UN Watch.(vii) UN Watch is : “a non-governmental organization whose mandate is to monitor the performance of the United Nations.” With Consultative Status to the UN Economic and Social Council, with ties to the UN Department of Public Information, “UN Watch is affiliated with the American Jewish Committee.” (AJC.)"

http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2011/04/05/libya-oil-banks-water-the-united-nations-and-americas-holy-crusade/

Interesting ..... the involvement in HR Watch of persons whose core values include securing energy resources.

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What you dont know about the libyan crisis:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hlOhymEY7c&feature=player_embedded#
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 09:48 AM
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1. Recommend
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PETRUS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 11:01 AM
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2. K&R nt
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 11:14 AM
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3. This war is filthy, illegal and a cynical resourse grab gallingly justified by altruism
Edited on Tue Oct-18-11 11:15 AM by PurityOfEssence
This is a deeply shameful episode.

Those who need to keep the ridiculous fantasy alive that Barack Obama is a pristine moral paragon do so by destroying our future and killing many otherwise safe foreigners.

Worse still is the potential instability that could have blowback upon the re-election and chaotic results for the unfortunate locals. This was reckless, deceptive, selfish, greedy, dishonest and morally ugly, especially with its claims of ethical underpinning.
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Distant Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 12:47 PM
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7. Purity! No one says it better. Thanks
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court jester Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 11:49 AM
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4. kr great collection of sources esp. Pilger, not exactly an amateur
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 06:00 AM
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12. Oh, absolutely, big kick just for Pilger alone! Speaking of which... an absolute must-read here:
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 08:45 AM
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16. Thank you inna. Those are both eye-opening articles. n/t.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 02:04 AM
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19. oh, you're most welcome. :) i personally think the first one has a haunting

and powerful and timeless quality to it and... should be a required reading. - or something. :)
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court jester Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 04:31 AM
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24. +1,000,000
Those are keepers. They remind me of what we used to have here, Real Journalism, or whatever you want to call it. Thanks so much for adding them to the mix. Truth is hard to find, but obviously not impossible.

This:

"On February 16, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton gave a speech at George Washington University in which she condemned governments that arrested protestors and crushed free expression. She lauded the liberating power of the Internet, while failing to mention that her government was planning to close down those parts of the Internet that encouraged dissent and truth-telling. It was a speech of spectacular hypocrisy, and McGovern was in the audience. Outraged, he rose from his chair and silently turned his back on Clinton. He was immediately seized by police and a security goon and beaten to the floor, dragged out and thrown into jail, bleeding. He has sent me photographs of his injuries. He is 71. During the assault, which was clearly visible to Clinton, she did not pause in her remarks...

"...and yet, fascism and imperialism are twins..."

And then the speech, and all mention of it was wiped off the record, for all intents and purposes...And since the Team Jerseys were switched, the outrage from the days past was nought.

Then Pilger has the audacity of One Who Remembers (perhaps he could be labeled a terrorist, like Julian Assange, and a drone could track his every move and strike in the dead of night)

"...Libya is the immediate opportunity. The Nato attack, with the UN Security Council assigned to mandate a bogus "no-fly zone" to "protect civilians", is strikingly similar to the final destruction of Yugoslavia in 1999. There was no UN cover for the bombing of Serbia and the "rescue" of Kosovo, yet the propaganda echoes today. Like Slobodan Milosevic, Muammar al-Gaddafi is a "new Hitler", plotting "genocide" against his people. There is no evidence of this, as there was no genocide in Kosovo. In Libya, there is a tribal civil war..."



"...The crown prince of Bahrain, on the other hand, is a Good Arab. On 19 May he was warmly welcomed to Britain by Cameron with a photocall on the steps of 10 Downing Street. In March, the same crown prince slaughtered unarmed protesters in his country and allowed Saudi forces to crush the Bahraini democracy movement. The Obama administration has rewarded Saudi Arabia, one of the most repressive regimes on earth, with a $60bn arms deal, the biggest in US history. The Saudis have the most oil. They are the Best Arabs..."

And just as Camp Bondsteel was raised from the ashes of "protection" so will another base or 2 be hatched in our New Territory, Libya. And once again, since the jerseys were switched, there will be no meaningful opposition.

Going out on a limb here, I'm guessing the next few targets have been acquired and the justification is being written up as I type...

Here is a fascinating article from a decade ago that explains what is going on now better than anyone but Pilger:

Backing up Globalization with Military Might
New World Order Onslaught by Karen Talbot Covert Action Quarterly, Issue 68, Fall 1999

"...Burgeoning military alliances, with the U.S. at the helm, are likely to try intervening in a similar way against North Korea, China — any country refusing to be a "New World Order" colony by allowing its wealth and labor power to be plundered by the TNCs. The assault against Yugoslavia threw open the floodgates for new wars including wars of competition among the industrial powers, with nuclear weapons part of the equation.

President Bill Clinton recently praised NATO for its campaign in Kosovo saying the alliance could intervene elsewhere in Europe or in Africa
to fight repression."We can do it now. We can do it tomorrow, if it is necessary, somewhere else," he told U.S. troops gathered at the Skopje, Macedonia airport. (1)..."

"...The ongoing media hype, including the unprecedented demonization of the Serbs, is designed to continue molding public opinion to accept the "justice" of the war.

"...An article by Thomas Friedman in the New York Times entitled "What the World Needs Now" tells it all. Illustrated by an American Flag on a fist it said, among other things: "For globalism to work, America can't be afraid to act like the almighty superpower that it is....The hidden hand of the market will never work without a hidden fist-McDonald's cannot flourish without McDonnell Douglas..."

Very Long and complicated yet even a skimming will reveal truth that is unreported here in the United States of the New Empire (AND This was written over 10 years ago):

http://www.globalissues.org/article/448/backing-up-globalization-with-military-might#globalissues-org

One of the problems right now is that many/most of the Citizens of the USA simply cannot, or will not, learn from history. It is astounding...











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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 11:49 AM
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26. thanks! saving the link before i do anything else. :)

well familiar with globalissues.org, btw,

have several of their multi-page, extensively researched/referenced/linked reports on my hard drive, in fact. :D

not surprised a bit that we read (and dig) the same sources, btw! :)


and btw, extra thanks for the Kosovo reference, that entire issue is extremely important and... let's say, commonly misunderstood.


...


Edited to add: just found this post in an open window in my browser; didn't get a chance to finish/post this last night...

posting this morning unfinished, anyway, before I close my browser.

:hi:

Just heard the news... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2152155#2153069

sad, sad thread, btw... the level of discussion, that is... :shrug:
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 06:19 AM
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14. John Pilger is one of the best journalists in the world today.
Edited on Wed Oct-19-11 06:22 AM by sabrina 1
I believe it was he, during the Bush administration, who happened to on the ground in Afghanistan when a Drone strike hit the village he was covering. His description of what he saw was graphically horrific to anyone who has an ounce of humanity.

That was probably the only time a credible independent journalist was present to see what those horrific weapons do to a village full of innocent people. It was hard to read. I wonder what is wrong with people who KNOW that those weapons are killing innocent men, women and children every day, but turn a blind eye to these crimes for political reasons?

We blame the German people for not speaking out, but while the Left did speak out when Bush was president, now when these horrors have been escalated under this administration, where is the outrage?

This is happening in Libya also. This week Amnesty International wrote a devastating report on the crimes, and they called them 'war crimes' I believe, being committed by the so-called 'rebels', armed and funded by the West.

Pilger has never been proven wrong, and anyone who tries to say he is, is being wilfully blind or they are complicit.

I saw Hillary Clinton today in Libya, they are all staking their greedy claims now, and watched in horror as she encouraged the 'killing of Qadaffi'. Murder of a leader of a country we have no business to be in, as she is in a hurry to collect the spoils. They need it to bail out their Bankster friends in Europe I guess.

To encourage these war criminals, as described by Amnesty International, to murder another human being, I felt sick watching her. Funny how we never hear Fox go after her anymore, not since Murdoch threw a party for her, after she 'proved herself' as a total warmonger and willing to even approve of torture. They sold their souls, but for what?

Those poor children, in the place she is egging on the murder of Qadaffi, which the murderous thugs who were cheering her on will do, will be killed also. As the HR Organizations have said, there are thousands of women and children trapped in that region and they are without food and medical care and they want a cease-fire to get them out. But Hillary is in a hurry, she made no mention of the brutality taking place there. Nor did she ask that the children at least, be evacuated. I don't know how they sleep at night.
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 08:56 AM
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17. I don't know how they do either.
Edited on Wed Oct-19-11 09:37 AM by polly7
Children and innocents as collateral damage have become so much the norm, they're completely off the radar now.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 03:54 AM
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23. I didn't think a lower low was possible but
having our top diplomat advocate murder while on an official visit is a new low.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 02:18 PM
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28. Neither did I and it seems her orders for a hit were followed.
Edited on Thu Oct-20-11 02:21 PM by sabrina 1
Another leader of a sovereign, oil-rich country dead and a country destabilized.

I'm waiting to hear when Nato is leaving, or will the news be that we have to 'help the Libyan people TRAIN THEIR MILITARY!' I'm betting on the latter. Anyone want to take the bet that this will be our reason for sending the troops there next?

I am so disgusted with all of it. And with anyone who condones it. At least during the Bush years there was some pushback to these foreign adventures and genocides.

On to the next resource-rich sovereign country. We will have some extra troops it seems with nothing to do. South America maybe? Chavez always said he knew they would kill him one day if they could.



And we wonder why this country is not trusted anywhere in the world anymore.

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AngkorWot Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 11:51 AM
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5. John Pilger...
That was the guy who called Obama a glossy Uncle Tom, right?
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 05:39 AM
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9. No idea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pilger

John Richard Pilger (born 9 October 1939<1>) is an Australian journalist and documentary maker, based in London. He has twice won Britain's Journalist of the Year Award, and his documentaries have received academy awards in Britain and the US.<2><3>
Since his early years as a war correspondent in Vietnam, Pilger has been a strong critic of Western foreign policy. He is particularly opposed to many aspects of United States foreign policy, which he regards as being driven by an imperialist agenda.

Honours and awards

Sydney Peace Prize
Pilger has received human rights and journalism awards, including the Richard Dimbleby Award for factual reporting at the 1990 BAFTA Awards, as well as honorary doctorates. He was awarded the Sydney Peace Prize at a ceremony at the Sydney Opera House in November 2009. The jury’s citation reads as follows: "For work as an author, film-maker and journalist as well as for courage as a foreign and war correspondent in enabling the voices of the powerless to be heard. For commitment to peace with justice by exposing and holding governments to account for human rights abuses and for fearless challenges to censorship in any form."<26>

Other awards

Awards include:
Descriptive Writer of the Year (1966)
Reporter of the Year (1967)
Journalist of the Year (1967)
International Reporter of the Year (1970)
News Reporter of the Year (1974)
Campaigning Journalist of the Year (1977)
Journalist of the Year (1979)
UN Media Peace Prize, Australia (1979 – 80)
UN Media Peace Prize and Gold Medal, Australia (1980 – 81)
TV Times Readers' Award (1979)
United Kingdom Academy Award (1990)
The George Foster Peabody Award, USA (1990)
American Television Academy Award ('Emmy') (1991)
British Academy of Film and Television Arts – The Richard Dimbleby Award (1991)
Reporters Sans Frontiers Award, France (1990)
International de Television Geneve Award (1995)
The Monismanien Prize, Sweden (2001)
The Sophie Prize for Human Rights, Norway (2003)
EMMA Media Personality of the Year (2003)
Royal Television Society – Best British Documentary for Stealing a Nation (2004)
One World Media Awards - TV Documentary Award for his ITV1 film The War on Democracy, on the role of Washington in Latin American politics. (2008)<27>
Sydney Peace Prize, Australia (2009)<28>
Honorary degrees and academic appointments:
Hon. D. Litt. (Staffordshire)
D. Phil. (Dublin City)
D. Arts (Oxford Brooks and Kingston)
D. Arts (University of Lincoln)
D. Arts (Rhodes University, South Africa)
Hon. LL.D. (St Andrews)
DUniv (Open University, UK)
Edward Wilson Fellow, Deakin University (Australia)
Visiting Professor, Cornell University, USA
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 03:20 AM
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21. John Pilger may be the greatest living documentarian. That guy. n/t
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Distant Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 12:04 PM
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6. The anti-Libya "facts" protrayed in Western press bore no resemblance to my experience or that of
Edited on Tue Oct-18-11 12:05 PM by Distant Observer
friends still in North Africa.

The total encapsulation of the Western media in a propaganda campaign to turn a militant internal power struggle into a scorched-earth crusade to save defenseless civilians has been breath-taking. TRUTH BE DAMNED!
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AngkorWot Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 12:49 PM
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8. Did you know that al jazeera was deep in Libya before western media paid attention?
I'm going to guess that no, no you didn't.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 05:41 AM
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10. K&R and thank you
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 05:42 AM
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11. How dare you challenge the humanitarians?
:sarcasm:
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 06:06 AM
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13. Drones for Freedom! Liberation bombs! It's not a war when we're killing them from a safe distance,
don't you know! President said so! :sarcasm: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

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Prometheus Bound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 03:15 AM
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20. A vile war instigated by hypocrites, liars, phoneys, war criminals and propagandists.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 03:22 AM
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22. Sorry I'm too late to recommend.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 04:35 AM
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25. K & R
for the truth
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 11:58 AM
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27. Thanks you guys for all your information - very, very interesting.
Edited on Thu Oct-20-11 12:01 PM by polly7
The Son of Africa Claims a Continent’s Crown Jewels

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article29461.htm

By John Pilger

"October 19, 2011 "Information Clearing House" -- On 14 October, President Barack Obama announced he was sending United States special forces troops to Uganda to join the civil war there. In the next few months, US combat troops will be sent to South Sudan, Congo and Central African Republic. They will only “engage” for “self-defence”, says Obama, satirically. With Libya secured, an American invasion of the African continent is under way."

...."Africa is China’s success story. Where the Americans bring drones and destabilisation, the Chinese bring roads, bridges and dams. What they want is resources, especially fossil fuels. With Africa’s greatest oil reserves, Libya under Muammar Gaddafi was one of China’s most important sources of fuel. When the civil war broke out and Nato backed the “rebels” with a fabricated story about Gaddafi planning “genocide” in Benghazi, China evacuated its 30,000 workers in Libya. The subsequent UN security council resolution that allowed the west’s “humanitarian intervention” was explained succinctly in a proposal to the French government by the “rebel” National Transitional Council, disclosed last month in the newspaper Liberation, in which France was offered 35 per cent of Libya’s gross national oil production “in exchange” (the term used) for “total and permanent” French support for the NTC. Running up the Stars and Stripes in “liberated” Tripoli last month, US ambassador Gene Cretz blurted out: “We know that oil is the jewel in the crown of Libyan natural resources!”

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