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Playinghardball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 10:35 AM
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Poll: Most Republicans hope President Obama's policies fail
Source: Dai8ly Kos

From CNN's latest poll

In general, do you hope that Barack Obama's policies will succeed, or do you hope that his policies will fail?

Total
Succeed: 67
Fail: 25

Democrats
Succeed: 92
Fail: 5

Independents
Succeed: 66
Fail: 24

Republicans
Succeed: 39
Fail: 51

Okay, I don't really have a problem with the fact that Republicans want President Obama himself to fail. That's just the nature of a partisan political system. But rooting for his policies to fail is utterly pathetic, not just because it's the country that suffers if his policies fail, but also because these Republicans are rooting for the failure of policies that they support.

More at: http://www.dailykos.com/
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 10:44 AM
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1. IMO the republicans want the country to fail and the citizens enslaved. They feel
special and think they are the ruling class and holders of wealth. Simultaneously, they are easily deluded and many are delusional. This is no longer the republican party, but the party of crackpots. The republican party that used to have some good ideas and you could team with for solutions for the country is long gone.

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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 11:02 AM
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2. Dickensonian England: The GOP ideal for the U.S. (nt)
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 11:29 AM
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5. Yes, it is, isn't it, exactly their goal. What always amazes me are the "poor" republicans
signing up for the republican team thinking they are part of (or soon will be) members of the super wealthy elite. It never ceases to amaze me what tricks the human mind can play on the reality of the situation. The "poor" republicans will eventually be digging in the landfills for a piece of bread to stem their hunger.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 01:19 PM
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8. True.
The best answer I can offer for the question of poor Republicans is that the GOP (through Rush et al.) has sold them on the notion that they possess some kind of moral superiority, if not the financial kind.

That is, that they're hard-workin', God-fearing, all-American Republicans, not like the lazy liberal Welfare cheats, single mothers, abortion seekers, flag-burners, etc., etc., etc. who vote "Democrat."
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 11:53 AM
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6. I have always thought the Oliver Cromwell era was their goal.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 01:21 PM
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9. LOL. But with GOPers as Cromwell & the New Model Army and...
...the Democrats as the Irish they slaughered.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 05:29 PM
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13. Exactly. With their puritanical lifestyle and downer attitudes.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 11:05 AM
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3. Kick
:kick:
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 11:11 AM
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4. What happend to that being "unamerican" and "unpatriotic"?
Fucking hypocrites.

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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 12:42 PM
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7. The saddest part is they weren't such lying, hypocritical assholes with the memory of a gnat
They'd get that most of what they want to fail comes straight from their think tanks and/or the Chamber of Commerce.

It is now apparent that huge swaths of the electorate are nothing but reflexive hyper-partisans that don't give a damn about policy, only who implements it and the rhetoric used. Pure tribe and emotion nonsense with about zero thought and way less principle than thought.

Parties have always been a risky shortcut for considering positions and actions on issues based on one's own principles and one's perspective on the greater good but they are dangerous in times where there is little to no ideology or when all options approximately share the same disastrous one because you end up with silly bullshit like this-a fair chunk of the nation in rebellion against their own ideas which means they have to then move to new, often undefinable extremes for the sake of partisan food fights and the original opposition is stuck trying to sell what they know is bullshit, hoping against hope that some good can be squeezed out of bad.

I hope the policies succeed but that has little impact on thing they will or having any desire to implement them (because I don't think they are good and/or effective for filling the needs of the people). Of course to be fair, if one thinks a policy has either a bad intent or aim then you logically must desire it to fail.

If you are against the outcome of the policy, by definition you want it to fail.

Sometimes, you might even be forced to come out in favor of a positive outcome because of what had to be traded to get it. You might oppose a measure that would bring full employment if it came with drastic reductions in wages, labor rights, environmental regulation, or any number of legitimate reasons.

I think your line of reasoning is essentially dangerous, you understand partisan bickering but not disagreement over or even rejection of policy???

You do understand that the writer is in no small degree, is implying that politics should be a personality contest rather than a battle of ideas. No question that the TeaPubliKlans are opposing their own proposals out of pure partisanship and that is the problem not that they might want a policy to fail.
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Rene Descartes Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 04:26 PM
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10. I don't know about you, but during Bush's terms, I was hoping that he failed too.
But alas, whether is was authorizing military action against Iraq or No Child Left Behind, Dems played a large part in his success.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 04:30 PM
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11. Poll: Ice is cold !
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 04:32 PM
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12. They hate Obama more than they love America
That much is known
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