Yale Conservative Students - "occupy" Occupy New Haven

[blogslut]

DEFENDING CAPITALISM AGAINST “AIMLESS MOBS”

The Occupy Occupy Facebook group’s description compares the Occupy Movement to a mob, and states that while “times are tough for folks across our nation,” positive change can be effective without “the overhaul of society.”

Elizabeth Henry ’14, a creator of the Occupy Occupy event on Facebook and a member of the Yale Political Union’s Tory Party, said she understands the hardships that Occupy protestors face.

“Unemployment has skyrocketed, the federal deficit is out of control, and the Obama administration has no answers about how to get us out of this mess,” Henry wrote in an email. “However, I think the Occupation Movement’s crying out against corporations and capitalism is misguided and unproductive.”

~snippers~

Michael Knowles ’12, chairman of the Yale College Republicans and a creator of the Occupy Occupy event, said in an email that he thinks these commenters misunderstand the event’s aims. Rather than attacking the unemployed or “millions of citizens like us” who are unhappy with the Obama administration’s handling of the economy, “we are protesting the mobs of left-leaning political activists that are ‘occupying’ public parks and streets in cities across the country and who proudly proclaim that they have no goals or even an understanding of why they are there.” Knowles said...

Gabe Ozuna (L-R), 18, Freshman at Yale and Elizabeth Henry, 19, a sophomore at Yale who is part of Occupy Occupy New Haven argues with Occupy New Haven protester Dan Peters in New Haven, Connecticut October 15, 2011. Protests inspired by the grassroots 'Occupy Wall Street' movement are planned for dozens of cities world-wide as part of a global day of action. Elizabeth Henry is part of Occupy Occupy New Haven which is a counter protest to Occupy New Haven.

link to article: http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/2011/oct/14/students-will-occupy-occupy-new-haven/
image liberated from www.news.daylife.com

*blogslut* sighs heavily and says, "Bless their tiny hearts."

[justiceischeap]

1. *Face palm*

They just don't get it...

[dionysus]

2. easy to spot the pasty, chubby, whiney, spoiled repukes in that photo.

[white_wolf]

3. The people in the OP are really frustrating.

They have been given a great opportunity and they should be more grateful to the society that let them have it. As was pointed out there are a lot of similar students in state schools and lower tier private schools and the College Republicans are probably in the minority at Yale, so for anyone who I offended with my stupid snap judgment I apologize.

[FarCenter]

5. Elizabeth Warren is not Ivy League -- her bachelors degree is from University of Houston

You are only Ivy League if your undergraduate degree is from an Ivy League school.

Graduate and professional degrees from them do not count. Nor does being on the faculty there.

[white_wolf]

8. Oh my bad.

I assumed since she taught at Harvard she had a degree from Harvard or a similar school.

[nichomachus]

9. Thanks for your prejudice. I went to an Ivy League school

I went to an Ivy League school and I have a very good idea what the average person in the country goes through.

[white_wolf]

10. Did you even read my post?

I clearly said there were exceptions. I even used the phrase "a lot" not "all" or even "most", but "a lot" because I know not all of them are like that, perhaps not even the majority of them.

[nichomachus]

15. Entitled students are everywhere

There are "entitled" students in all colleges -- not limited to Harvard, Yale, etc. More irritating are the clearly middle-class students in second- and third-tier schools who feel entitled and who are in support of the one percenters.

Reread your headline. You made an assumption about Yale, despite your disclaimer. There are some of entitled people you talk about at Ivy League schools, but my experience is that they are in general much more liberal than you imagine. I went to a small, middle-class college for my undergrad and it was decidedly more right-wing than my Ivy League school. In fact, I stopped going to college reunions because of that.

[white_wolf]

18. You are right. I'll admit I misspoke.

I will edit my post to reflect that. I shouldn't have made a judgement like that, I just got frustrated at the the people in the article. You are correct that not everyone at the Ivy League is like that and yes, there are a lot of entitled students in state schools. So for what it is worth I am sorry for my stupid snap judgement.

[KamaAina]

11. Many elite students choose Yale specifically for the community service opportunities in New Haven

something Princeton or Dartmouth can't really offer.

Many more of us take advantage of its generous financial aid policy, backed by that huge endowment, which actually makes Yale more affordable than small elite colleges like Amherst, Middlebury, etc.

Of course the Gee Dubya types are still around, but they don't define the place, and haven't for years.

Thanks,
K-A
Y'85, cum laude

[white_wolf]

13. Once again I did not not see every single person from an Ivy League school bad or anything.

I was commenting on the fact that if you are able to go to an Ivy League school, you really shouldn't be complaining like the people in the article are, because you do have a huge advantage over most people.

[hootinholler]

32. I hold up my nephew

as a Yalie who is grounded in the real world.

[white_wolf]

36. I realize my post was stupid and a broad brush statement and like I said I am sorry.

I was just frustrated with the people in the OP.

[LynneSin]

4. Why are they always pointing into people's faces?

the girl looks like a future nameless Faux News blonde host.

[KurtNYC]

20. +1

[geardaddy]

26. +1

[pacalo]

6. I'd like to know more about how Miss Henry was able to get into Yale.

I'm not impressed with her sense of logic or ability to grasp the cause & effect of how we got to this point of wide discontent.

Wealthy parents, I'm guessing.

[LynneSin]

12. Maybe the same way George W. Bush got into Yale

Family Connections.

[kestrel91316]

24. "Legacy" admission, no doubt. And she's probably a trust fund baby,

lots of inherited, unearned backing.

[hifiguy]

35. Has to be a legacy.

I don't think you can get into Yale any other way if you're that dumb.

[coalition_unwilling]

27. Legacy admission (aka 'affirmative action for the already-privileged') - n/t

[Odin2005]

7. Prolly getting Koch money.

[surrealAmerican]

14. Here's hoping they got a little bit of education from the experience.

There may still be some hope for these kids if they can learn to listen to people, instead of lecturing them.

[Zorra]

16. It's for sure that the spoiled little preppies won't be getting pepper sprayed

any time soon.

[coalition_unwilling]

28. Daniel Ellsburg, in his magisterial autobiography 'Secrets,' relates

that his epiphany and conversion to the anti-war movement occurred when, at Harvard U. in the late 60s, he witnessed a male student burning or otherwise defacing his draft card (can't remember exactly which). Ellsburg realized that, if this student of massive privilege were willing to sacrifice so much to stop the war then he, Ellsburg, also had a responsibility to sacrifice at the same level. Result was the leak of the Pentagon Papers, Ellsburg's prosecution, the Watergare Plumbers and, ultimately, Nixon's resignation in utter disgrace.

So please remember that great causes (like the anti-Vietnam War movement or now OWS) can occasion heroic efforts from those from whom you might least expect it.

I hold no brief for the Ivy's, having attended state schools for both undergrad and grad school.

[Zorra]

37. I was totally referring to the conservative Wall St supporters.

Not to the white hats at all.

I already totally get what you are saying, I totally agree, and there's no issue there.

So sorry I was not clear about that.

[City Lights]

17. How original.

:eyes:

What chumps! Probably legacy students, like Junior. Hey Elizabeth, it's not nice to point! Keep your hands to yourself, young lady!

[HughBeaumont]

19. Makes you just want to superglue your face to your hands and die that way.

Unbelievable.

They're defending your generation's future, you stupid Reaganite fucks!!

Love how they use the language of the right wing - "Mobs" "no goals" "left-leaning activists" . . .:eyes:

“Unemployment has skyrocketed, the federal deficit is out of control, and the Obama administration has no answers about how to get us out of this mess,” Henry wrote in an email. “However, I think the Occupation Movement’s crying out against corporations and capitalism is misguided and unproductive.”

Oh my God . . . corporations and capitalism and the glad-handing of them by the last 4 presidents are the reason we're IN this mess, dumbshit. Why didn't the Bewsh Administration have any answers? Oh, I know, because his admin helped create the bubbles by focusing on the Middle East and taking his eye off the American ball!

[coalition_unwilling]

25. LOL at the image you created :) These "stupid Reagnite fucks," as

you put it, are either in the 1% or lackies and lickspittles for the 1%. They are our enemy.

As a sign I saw at Occupy Los Angeles put it: "Class Warfare: We're late to that party but we're here now."

[gratuitous]

21. Good, good, more free speech

We'll see who can put forth the better argument. At least Miss Henry acknowledges that the current system isn't very functional. If she has some actual ideas and real solutions, all the better. I'm guessing, however, that her fixation on what the current administration is doing absent any recognition of Republican obstructionism in Congress means she has a very narrow focus on how things might work better for more people.

[coalition_unwilling]

30. Here's that lickspittle Henry's idea of a solution:

[KurtNYC]

22. “we are protesting the mobs of left-leaning political activists that are ‘occupying’ public parks...

and streets in cities across the country and who proudly proclaim that they have no goals or even an understanding of why they are there.”

1. You can't protest a protest
2. You especially can't protest a protest by using it's name in the name of your protest and by joining the 99% who are already "occupying public parks"
3. If you believe that people who are in the streets have no goals and no understanding of why they are there then YOU have no understanding of why they are there and
4. you just helped Occupy achieve their goals!

[coalition_unwilling]

23. Fucking 1% douches -n/t

[w8liftinglady]

29. they better be glad my Yale-grad dad isn't there.

(FYI- my dad attended yale,and my mom worked at eugene ONeill's office there- that is where I was conceived. My mom and aunt protested womens rights, the war in viet Nam and civil rights at Yale.)

Not everyone who goes to yale has a silver spoon. My dad went there on a complete scholarship to study Asiain languages...thanks to our government.

Unfortunately, the richie Riches of the world make the rest of us look like soulless bastards...just like them.

[Tsiyu]

31. The smirky contingent

We have them around here during the school year.

Smug little shits who believed Mummy and Diddy when they told them they were special, right before their parents shipped their precious progeny off to boarding school so they didn't have to deal with their own kids.

These little Yale Smirkies have absolutely no clue about the real world, and absolutely zero compassion for anyone, escpecially not for the poor or working class. All they know about economics is that Mummy and Diddy let them use the credit card.

If you're in an economic bind, they'll just say "Can't you ask your Mummy and Diddy for some money? That's what we do."

The "real" occupy folks make these little posers look like fools.

[NotThisTime]

33. Sounds like they watch faux news every day. Wonder which top 400 are their parents

At least they have their talking points down.

[Puregonzo1188]

34. Yale Tory Party protests those protesting unemployment and a bad economy?

Did they even think about how that sounds? Yes, I know not everyone who goes to Yale is an elitist, etc--I go to a private liberal arts college myself, which while is no Yale I understand that people's perceptions of such institutions and the people there aren't always right, but still--Ivy League School+Self-described Tories+"Occupy Occupy" it's just unbelievably untactful.

[KurtNYC]

38. K&R

[LWolf]

39. I took my grandson to the local gathering last weekend.

I took him to lunch first, and asked him what he knew about demonstrations in general, and about OWS. He's 11.

He knew about OWS because he watches "CNN Student News" every day at school. He's politically a blank slate; his dad, my son, is cynically apolitical, and they don't talk about politics over dinner.

I told him I wanted to join up with the local occupy group that afternoon, and he asked me why I'd want to join an angry mob. What if we got arrested?

I told him it was a good educational opportunity for him. So we showed up at a park, where he listened to speakers and read the signs.

When we got there, I asked him to look around and find the angry mob...there wasn't one. Just a small group of about 150 people gathered to organize. There were people of all ages there.

On our way home, he asked questions about what he'd heard, told me he agreed with most, and asked why the tv showed angry mobs.

I said it's easy to get angry at injustice, and that very large numbers of people gathered weren't necessarily a "mob," but that they were an indication that many people in the country felt strongly about the situation. That a demonstration is democracy in action.

Clearly, what he got from CNN Student News did not convey that; there is an obviously transparent effort to spread false propaganda, and Yale's conservative students appear to be willing participants in that effort.

[workinclasszero]

40. Yale College Republicans : The poor have no food? No jobs?

Let them eat cake!

[OneGrassRoot]

41. Oh, I am so gonna use that "bless their tiny hearts"....

:rofl:

:applause: