Police take control of Britain's biggest traveller site

[FarCenter]

Riot police have gained control of Britain's biggest illegal travellers' site after meeting violent resistance and a barrage of missiles on entering the camp .

Seasoned activists, who have joined the residents, hurled bricks at officers, swung spades at them and torched a caravan on Wednesday at the culmination of a decade-long legal battle over the Dale Farm site in southeast England.

Dozens of police carrying shields and batons forced their way into the six-acre (2.4 hectare) camp of Irish travellers, outside the town of Basildon in Essex, shortly before sunrise.

One person was hit with a Taser stun gun, while 23 people were arrested, but the camp of caravans and chalets was under control by midday, police said.

http://www.france24.com/en/20111020-police-take-control-britains-biggest-traveller-site

[Divine Discontent]

1. the world is in many forms of outrage and attempts to quell uprisings.

hundreds of millions are being controlled by the elite who want things to stay a specific way. I'm not too familiar with these people, but I'm sure it's another case of TPTB abusing humans.


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[FarCenter]

3. Irish Travellers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Traveller

[Divine Discontent]

8. thanks, FC! I'll read it when I have time.

[enlightenment]

5. Actually, it's more of a case of people taking advantage

and then claiming they're being discriminated against. Long story short - this group purchased land that was not zoned for residential. Without asking (or receiving at any point) permission, they built a compound, poured concrete slabs, and parked their caravans there. They also built at least one and possibly more permanent residences, along with a variety of sheds and outbuildings (garages and such).

TPTB are the Council for that area, backed by the residents who live within the rules, instead of flouting them at every opportunity (humans need rules in order to maintain some semblance of civil society, whether you like it or not).

Perhaps you should consider learning something about the situation before you decide that the only possible answer is that they are victims of some nameless 'powers that be'. After learning about this situation, you may still feel the same - but at least you'd be coming from an informed position, instead of jumping to conclusions.

[Divine Discontent]

7. I'm more for their situation now that you've explained it. Thanks!

It sounds similar to the posh communities here that get disgusted when lowly types have moved into surrounding areas, and the rich throw up these wonderful rules to try and stop others from merely living, to prevent their communities from having to be near the rabble-rousers.
I suppose they should just beg door to door every day and get rid of their camp altogether, perhaps the communities would prefer that... There's a problem in the world with millions of people without a place to call "home", and I find it sad that is the case, thanks for your version of the facts.

[cherokeeprogressive]

2. "I fuckin' HATE Pikeys."

From Guy Ritchie's movie "Snatch".

[Ellipsis]

12. "yeah, I like dawgs."

One of my favorite films.

Have you seen "Revolver" by Ritchie?

[winstars]

15. "Anything to Declare? Yeah, Don't go to F----- England!!!"

I love that movie!!!

[Ken Burch]

4. Britain has been obsessed with crushing the travellers(aka Roma or "Gypsies"

combined with non-Roma people who simply quit conventional dreary middle-class life)for centuries.

It's related to the Anglo-Saxon determination to wipe out the remnants of the Celtic population of Britain, and to the modern hatred of immigrants in that country-it's all about destroying anyone who isn't a total soulless moneygrubbing conformist.

People who hate Travellers are fascists at heart, and need to be stopped.

[pennylane100]

6. that is total rubbish.

Nobody care about their ancestry anglo saxon versus celtics. Mostly they are travel from town to town, stealing whatever they can and going door to door selling useless trinkets. I remember when I was a kid and they came knocking on the door, I would not answer because they always swore like sailors when you refused to buy anything.

They bought a plot of land that was not zoned for a residential community and they got evicted. They could have chosen any plot that was suitable for their needs but they have never thought it necessary to obey the same laws as the rest of us and they got kicked out. Everyone of them were offered alternative housing before being evicted but turned it down.

They are not well liked in Britain but mostly because of their antisocial behavior.

[truebrit71]

9. Total bollocks...they are a bunch of roving crims...

..and not much else...

[Divine Discontent]

10. I know they have a bad rep for rabble-rousing, but I agree with everything you wrote, KB!

[pennylane100]

11. Could you be a little more specific in your agreement with KB

Do you have any idea how many British people know if they are either Anglo Saxon or Celtic, do you have any facts or data to prove you know what you are talking about.
My father was born in Wales, I think my great grandmother on my father's side was Irish. My mother's family was from Italy. I do not think that qualifies me as Anglo Saxon and yet I feel no sympathy for the Travellors.

The reality is that this particular group of people are a bunch of trouble makers who go around the country causing mischief and mayhem. It is statements yours that make me wonder about your sanity.

"It's related to the Anglo-Saxon determination to wipe out the remnants of the Celtic population of Britain, and to the modern hatred of immigrants in that country-it's all about destroying anyone who isn't a total soulless moneygrubbing conformist.


What does that even mean. You are so totally clueless.

[Ken Burch]

13. I didn't say a person HAD to be Anglo-Saxon to hate Travellers

What I said was that the historic hostility to them in the UK derived, in significant but not TOTAL measure, in the fact that they weren't part of the dominant(read Saxon)culture.

No personal insult to you was intended.

One of the most important things I learned about Travellers was musical...and it's pretty significant if you are an admirer of any form of Britiah traditional song...the Travellers were the main people who(for whatever reason)kept singing that traditional music and kept it alive until it could be collected by people like Dr. Child and the others in the last two centuries. Without them, the British Isles would have little, if any, traditional music remaining.

For this, whatever else they may be doing now, they deserve to survive in some form.

[pennylane100]

14. They are perfectly welcome to survive and even thrive

in Britain, it is their refusal to do so in a way that conforms to society's laws that make them outcasts.