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mahatmakanejeeves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 10:20 AM
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Doyle Rogers Distinguished Chair of Law to Be Filled by Alberto Gonzales
Doyle Rogers Distinguished Chair of Law to Be Filled by Alberto Gonzales

Posted in College of Law, University Advancement on October 3, 2011
Former U.S. Attorney General named to new, endowed position at Belmont University

Belmont University College of Law announced today the establishment of the Doyle Rogers Distinguished Chair of Law. The newly established, endowed position will be filled by former U.S. Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales. Judge Gonzales will be the only former U.S. Attorney General teaching full time in legal education and will begin his position at Belmont on Jan. 2, 2012.

Belmont College of Law Founding Dean Jeff Kinsler said, “The insight and experience Alberto Gonzales acquired while serving as the nation’s chief law enforcement officer, Counsel to the President, Justice on the Supreme Court of Texas and Texas Secretary of State will be immeasurable resources for our students and faculty. Since leaving public office, these qualities have helped Judge Gonzales develop into an outstanding professor. We are incredibly fortunate that he has decided to join our charter faculty, and we are extremely grateful for the support provided by Doyle and Barbara Rogers.”
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 10:25 AM
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1. So basically a wealthy friend gave a lot of cash to establish a job for Alberto Gonzales?
Time to spread the news and get the complaints firing at this establishment.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 10:25 AM
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2. They should have left it as a race track.
--imm
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ArcticFox Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 10:27 AM
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3. And some still think these guys might be prosecuted
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 10:28 AM
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4. Belmont is a known as a "christian" university, fo those who haven't heard of it before.
:puke:
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 10:30 AM
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7. That explains a lot
Were I in the position to do so, I wouldn't even interview a graduate of one of these "Xtian" "law schools" for a position in the mail room, much less for an attorney job.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 10:32 AM
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8. It's in Nashville, TN and is considered a good school,
mostly because their tuition is very high.
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 10:28 AM
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5. What in the blue hell is the "Belmont College of Law"??
:wtf: Let us just say that Harvard, Stanford, Michigan or Yale it ain't.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 10:57 AM
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10. The Law College is just being started
On October 7, 2009, Belmont University announced its intention to open a College of Law, the first new law school in Middle Tennessee in nearly 100 years. Belmont’s College of Law represents the university’s seventh college and fourth doctoral program. The College will begin classes in the fall of 2011, and when at full capacity, it will enroll approximately 350 students.

http://www.belmont.edu/law/

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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 10:28 AM
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6. Once again, it pays to research where your lawyer went to school
I'll add that to my list of law schools, I would totally boycott.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 10:51 AM
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9. Well that'll "un-distinguish" it. n/t
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 01:30 PM
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11. Belmont was a rich girls' finishing school for many decades.
It was where the debutantes of Middle Tennessee went to matriculate. It is the alma mater of the real Minnie Pearl and the fictional Maggie (the cat on a hot tin roof) Pollit. It is a fine school that has always enjoyed a superior reputation. It is co-ed now and has become a university, including a soon-to-be school of law.

But it's a pretty small pond for a former Attorney General to end up in.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 01:56 PM
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12. So many oxymorons in one sentence!
Let me cut to the main moron:

Slimeball traitor nutjob oozes into trustfund scuzzbucket job.

More insightful. More experienced.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 02:29 PM
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13. Speaking as a retired lawyer/law professor, Mothers, don't let your children grow up to lawyers
Edited on Thu Oct-20-11 02:31 PM by Divernan
The very LAST thing the US needs is another law school, particularly one which ranked at the very bottom, i.e, 4th tier. This place will be a refuge for wealthy students who couldn't get accepted at any of the higher ranking schools.

Many of today's recent law graduates (from far more distinguished law schools) are working as "contract" lawyers, which means working 40 hour weeks for $15 an hour and NO benefits.

Some people can’t get jobs coming out of Vanderbilt, what in the world makes a person think they’ll be able to get a job coming out of an unranked, unaccredited law school in 2014?

Allan Tanenbaum is the chair of the ABA Commission on the Impact of the Economic Crisis on the Profession and Legal Needs. He’s got even more snark for Dean Kinsler and the theory of opening new law schools in this economy:

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/why_so_many_law_schools_theyre_a_profitable_proposition_aba_recession_czar/

“It’s not unusual to see graduates of top 25 law schools … working as clerks in department stores to make enough money to volunteer at night,” offering their legal services at clinics and other resume-boosting activities, Tanenbaum said. “Law school students are at the bottom of everything and impacted by everything.”…

“Every year, more and more law schools are starting up. One has to wonder why,” he said. “Well, one doesn’t really have to wonder. Law schools are a profitable proposition for the schools. … You admit 25 more law school students a year and you can cover a $1 million deficit in your budget overnight.”

LAW SCHOOLS ARE CASH COWS. Based on his comments to date, it seems Dean Kinsler is willing to say anything to prospective law students in order to convince them to fork over the tuition dollars. Kinsler went after the tuition dollars before he even had a building to house these people during their “education.”


http://abovethelaw.com/2010/10/at-least-one-person-at-the-aba-is-aware-that-new-law-schools-make-no-sense/

Is there anything more telling about the true intentions of the people at Belmont than the fact that they’ll be accepting legal education tuition dollars before they even have a building to conduct legal education out of? I’d say that this is a case of Belmont putting the cart before the horse, except THERE IS NO HORSE, PEOPLE! Some people can’t get jobs coming out of Vanderbilt, what in the world makes a person think they’ll be able to get a job coming out of an unranked, unaccredited law school in 2014? Because the dean says “there’s a chance” that the economy will magically improve by then? Here’s a radical thought: wait for the economy to actually improve, then go to law school!

In any event, it’s great to see that Allan Tanenbaum represents at least one person at the ABA who seems to get what is happening to the value proposition of going to law school. But can he (or any of his colleagues) actually do anything about it?

Because Belmont is open for business. Kids will be arriving there next fall. The dean is bragging about how many people are interested in the school (even out-of-state people — neither God nor Man has invented a word to describe people who would cross state lines and pay a premium to go to a new law school like Belmont). Belmont, UMass, North Texas, Shreveport — these new law schools are out there now, providing ruinous economic options to would-be lawyers every day.

There’s got to be something somebody can do to stop them. Prospective law students deserve some kind of basic consumer protection just as surely as prospective car buyers deserve to know that their new purchase won’t blow up in their face and leave them scarred for life.

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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 05:06 PM
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14. Something needs to be done about these JD mills
Have ya noticed that every Christian University either wants, is building or already has a law school?
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MurrayDelph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 05:45 PM
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15. I think Alberto is well-qualified to fill a distinguished chair.
I believe the people in Florida call it "Old Sparky."
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 06:34 PM
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16. +1000
No shortage of volunteers to pull the switch.
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