Let's see, under Obama's watch we got bin Laden and Gaddafi

[LynneSin]

How many did Bush capture or remove from position?

nuff said!

[joeybee12]

1. I wouldn't put Gaddafi in the same sentence as bin laden...

least we forget we were buddying up to this dictator until we realized we could get oil more easily by ousting him.

[Vincardog]

2. Don't forget it was the Libyans who got him not US

[DFab420]

4. We were buddies with Bin Laden too. I would not want to be a friend of convenience to the US

[Rene Descartes]

7. Actually, Libya supplies the EU countries with oil--not the US.

[Exilednight]

19. But we have an interest in this, too. If the EU countries didn't get their oil from Libya, then

they'd have to get it from someone. Oil companies aren't willing to share their supply.

[occupyeverywhere]

3. .

[spanone]

5. enjoy.

[DFab420]

6. OMG OBAMA IS OBVIOUSLY A TERRORIST NOW!!!! AHHHHH!!!!!

[Mimosa]

22. That's not what the photo implies

There's also a 2009 photo of Khaddafi's son visting the White House.

I imagine the Khaddafi family refused to submit to American suggestions. Therefore they represented a threat.

The warning is there for everybody else, isn't it?

[sabrina 1]

35. Well, we can't be expected to go on supporting

dictators who decide to keep some of the profits of their own oil.

We are not exactly choosy about our friends, so long as we win the oil wars.

You are trying to make a point, which I understand, but it seems the Left has now adapted the position of the Right, that if their team does something, it's okay. No matter how similar it may be to what they once opposed.

[Kingofalldems]

49. Well well well

Have we been here before?

[bowens43]

8. We also got two unnecassary wars extended

and a third bonus war thrown in for good measure....

Obama LOVES playing with his soldiers......

[Exilednight]

20. Actually, it's four wars. Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq and as wikileaks exposed ..... Yemen. n/t

[KoKo]

31. We have more than that....we have our "Ops" all over Africa...

doing "stuff."

[polly7]

44. Not to forget all the drone attacks in Pakistan. n/t.

[caledesi]

9. We are safer NOW! Where are all the RWs now? N/T

[nichomachus]

11. We are?

The guy who will replace Ghadaffi was imprisoned and tortured by the CIA and MI5. I don't think he's our friend right now.

[ellisonz]

18. Incorrect.

He wants justice - not vengeance. I think he's seen enough violence - I also think he is grateful for NATO saving the Libyan Revolution as are most Libyans.

"I couldn't believe they could let this go on," he said. "What has happened deserves a full inquiry."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/05/abdul-hakim-belhaj-libya-mi6-torture

Mr Belhaj told the BBC: "What happened to me and my family is illegal. It deserves an apology. And for what happened to me when I was captured and tortured.

"For all these illegal things, starting with the information given to Libyan security, the interrogation in Bangkok."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14784365

[Exilednight]

21. So where's the part where he says he's our friend?

[ellisonz]

23. He might not be. But he's certainly not now our enemy.

He's surely grateful though for our help in backing the revolution.

He was previously head of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group which sough Gaddafi's overthrow.

[Exilednight]

24. So basically, your "incorrect" response is incorrect. n/t

[ellisonz]

41. Naw

He's not-not our friend. ;-)

[KoKo]

32. Ah...you think that "Our Team" is better than "Their Team" and you judge by KILLS & Assassinations?

That's your bench mark? Whose team is winning? Is it? :shrug:

[Exilednight]

47. Yes, because Libya was such a threat to the US.

:sarcasm:

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

10. There sure were some long, long faces on Fucked-up News today

Although I seldom can stand more than a few seconds of Fox at a time, I made a special exception to watch them this morning to see how they'd react. There were virtually no happy faces among the news readers and commentators. Their guests roundly criticized Obama for spending $1.1 billion in the Libyan campaign and also criticized him for taking too long on this campaign. I recall earlier when the Libyan uprising began that instead they were warning Obama that the campaign would probably last for years. There were virtually no individuals praising Obama for his role in the Libyan uprising and every time the fact that a U.S. drone aircraft led to the disruption of Khaddy's caravan was brought up, Fox made of point of saying that it was the rebels who actually pulled the trigger.

The sad faces on Fox really made my day.

[KoKo]

36. That's Cool...but when you wake up tomorrow morning...what does it mean to Your OWN LIFE?

Is the Ghadaffi Killing and Faux News being so upset that Obama might get a bounce going to really help YOU, your Family or your LIFE going forward?

What has the Ghadaffi Killing contributed to your Own Life and your future and the future of your Family and everyone you know going forward?

How big a deal is it? Please respond so I understand why you care more about what Faux News thinks than what YOU THINK about the Ghadaffi killing and how it relates to both you and your family and friends going forward in the American Economy of the Future.

[Posteritatis]

12. Kony'd be nice too, not that most people knew he even existed before last week.. (nt)

[MichiganVote]

13. Is Limbaugh next?

[dimbear]

14. Protected by anti-whaling laws. There are some renegade Japanese ships tho. n/t

[MichiganVote]

17. The media dictators.

[KoKo]

27. Today around DU...I see some "movement" that says LIMBAUGH..is Winning!...it's sad

makes me puke. But, to GLORY IN VIOLENCE is what FAUX NEWS AND LIMBAUGH, BECK and the folks DU'ers love to trash like Koch Brothers and Mellon-Scaife and the rest of those that OWS is Protesting against seem to LOVE THEM SOME STUFF OF!

I don't recognize the people here, anymore. But, I assume I was blind enough to think this was a Democratic Web Site.

Obviously Perceptions aren't Truth.

[Bucky]

15. Whattaya mean by "we", Kemosabe?

Plus you forgot those pirates.

[n2doc]

43. +1

People are treating this like a team sport. Rah Rah Rah for our side!

[Luminous Animal]

16. "All the best humanitarian interventions end with summary executions."

- Matt Yglesias via Twitter.

"Like Saddam b4 him: decades, noone gave a crap about Qd'fi one way or other. Suddenly his death is like Xmas in Democracyville" - Jaime Omar Yassin via Twitter

[KoKo]

26. That's true when there are no longer any "International Laws" to bring people to Justice...

Just Knock 'em off and drag their bloody body through street and see the cheering Crowds and show it on CNN and across the world...and it's called.... It's CALLED: "Bringing Freedom and Democracy to the World!"

It's cool for the crowds who love Football and build life around it. It's our CULTURE TODAY!

Do you really Love this Stuff? Do you see NO PROBLEMS WITH IT? :shrug:

[Luminous Animal]

39. Koko. Matt was being sarcastic.

I also included this ...

"Like Saddam b4 him: decades, noone gave a crap about Qd'fi one way or other. Suddenly his death is like Xmas in Democracyville" - Jaime Omar Yassin via Twitter

[KoKo]

29. Well.....if Matt Yglesias Says It....It's the GOD GIVEN TRUTH!

Do you read any further than Yglesias on "Twitter?" :shrug:

[Luminous Animal]

38. Well, yes I do. Your point?

[KoKo]

42. My point was as stated in my replies. Your Point?

[Luminous Animal]

46. Well, as stated above, Matt was being sarcastic. I'm pretty sure he believes the opposite of that

quote... as do I.

[KoKo]

25. LynnSin...How many more "Dictators" that US/GB and France Supported fall as you tick off notches

on your KILLER BELT. I gotta believe it's a fashionable belt in RED (the color of this Fall's Fashion Forward hype) and you gotta have a row of bullets on there...and you are doing the notches?

AYYYYYYYY! Is this TRUE?

[Selatius]

28. You're turning it into a Democrat v. Republican proposition that simply isn't warranted.

For that matter, how many dictators does the US still currently support across the world? I'm sure the thugs in Beijing love continuing to enjoy good business relations with the US, while it systemically crushes those who challenge their power. Let's also ignore the fact that the US was thawing relations with Gaddhafi in the final decade before we suddenly turned against him when the rebellion began.

[KoKo]

30. BTW...Is your Applause for Presidents ..."How Many Heads of Govt. they KILL?

If so...I don't want to be in the same Party or room with you.

[Obamanaut]

33. Plus 'wars' extended, and new ones started, and the tax cuts extended, and

Dems lost the majority in the House, and new trade agreements, and the jobs for infrastructure promised during the campaign have not appeared, and ...

Not sure who "we" is, but lest we forget while patting ourselves on the back, shouldn't the same "we" be included in the failure to 'get' bin Laden and Gaddafi?

[quinnox]

34. Honestly, I'd rather the economy was roaring and people working

with a low unemployment rate than care about some two-bit dictator like Quaddaffi being taken out.

[Enrique]

37. every American president gets to kill a few bad guys

the world is like a giant game preserve for U.S. presidents.

[KoKo]

40. That's the damned TRUTH...and thanks for saying it! n/t

[craigmatic]

45. Bush got Saddam but he didn't do anything to us. Obama got leaders of operations

that actually attacked Americans.

[LWolf]

48. I guess this might be important if the goal was to "get" people. nt