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rdking647 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 09:44 AM Original message |
stock market investing rule #1 |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
1. stock market investing rule #2 |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 10:12 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Where else can you get 50% gains in 3 years? |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 10:16 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. yeah right |
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rdking647 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 11:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
15. if you invested in the s%p 10 years ago |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. I had no money to invest at this time |
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Major Nikon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 05:06 PM Response to Reply #15 |
38. Your math is way off |
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rdking647 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 08:39 AM Response to Reply #38 |
50. now add in dividends to your 1.1% |
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Major Nikon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 09:50 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. You don't add dividends to a stock index as it represents the total return (or loss) on investment |
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dawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 10:32 AM Response to Reply #51 |
57. Actually, that isn't right. |
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DocMac (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 06:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
41. I would suggest that you sell and like it. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #15 |
63. I love Democrats that are experts in the stock market.. |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 11:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
17. or in 2000-2001. |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. yep, that is when I bailed |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #4 |
27. And you just forget about 92-2008, matching, dividends, and tax benefits |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 10:05 AM Response to Reply #4 |
53. You do understand taking short positions, right? |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 10:16 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. yes I understand "short positions" |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 10:26 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Please, enjoy looking down your nose at everyone who does |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 10:28 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. what? |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 10:17 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Vegas. In either case, such gains require a lot of luck. nt |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #6 |
29. no damn luck needed - index funds are the simplest things out there. nt |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 10:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Where else can you lose half your investment in an afternoon? |
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rdking647 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 11:12 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. if your diversified that doesnt happen |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 11:14 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Well, if you're diversified it can happen. Market collapse hits everything. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #18 |
28. And are always temporary. Just don't sell in them. nt |
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Major Nikon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 10:03 AM Response to Reply #18 |
52. The largest single day loss on the Dow is 22.61% |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #9 |
26. Dunno - I can't. Neither can any sane investor. nt |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
37. The casino :) . |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 11:09 AM Response to Reply #2 |
14. Form a drug cartel? n/t |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #14 |
30. Thought about that, but the near-certain violent death part put me off a bit. nt |
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DocMac (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 06:33 PM Response to Reply #30 |
43. But this is capitalism |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 11:35 AM Response to Reply #2 |
24. Assuming you bought in 2008 and sold in 2011 |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 11:41 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Yes - and I'm sure you rush to correct similar claims of losses, right? |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. Wouldn't "a 50% gain in three years" |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Absolutely it's cherry picking - but much more likely true |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 07:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
46. I have 20% less than I had in 2008. |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 10:44 AM Response to Reply #46 |
59. I have not lost anything since 2008 |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
36. +1 |
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Coyote_Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
3. another rule |
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dawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
5. Very good advice. |
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tuckessee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
7. Rule #1 is that it is not an investment but a gamble. |
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dawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 10:28 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Only if you choose to gamble. |
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rdking647 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. nope |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
10. Ever since programed trading followed by Dark Pools and quant funds, the market is rigged. There is |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 11:15 AM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Yes, it's a casino. You're betting on future price swings, not company performance. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 11:50 AM Response to Reply #19 |
31. preferred stocks do exist you know. nt |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
11. Actually |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
13. In the long run we're all dead. n/t |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
20. We should not have to gamble with our life savings in order to be able to retire |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 12:04 PM Response to Reply #20 |
33. You don't have to be "trained" - 30 seconds tells you all you need. |
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Major Nikon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. And many would have still lost had they followed your advice |
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rdking647 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 08:38 AM Response to Reply #40 |
49. but he still has 20 years left to reitrment. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
21. Actually, only one company in the original DOW remains. It's a crap shoot, not an investment. |
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rdking647 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 04:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
35. lets say you put 100 in every dow stock 100 years ago |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 07:22 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. Nicely done. |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 07:27 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. in 1896 who could afford $1200? nt |
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rdking647 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 08:35 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. if you put $10 in every dow stock you still would have a lot of money |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 11:02 AM Response to Reply #45 |
61. the answer is no one for the most part |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
39. It all boils down to how the economy is doing when YOU need to "cash out" |
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rdking647 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 08:36 AM Response to Reply #39 |
48. your assuming you cash everything out at once |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
42. that pretty much says it. |
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dawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
58. The stock market is like playing blackjack. |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
60. I would say rule #1 is buy low, sell high. |
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taught_me_patience (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
62. This is good advice in a sea of bad financial advice surrounding DU recently |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Buy some series I-bonds |
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