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vminfla Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 11:49 AM
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Christie Blatchford: ‘I would do it again’; court hears horror of alleged honour killing
Source: National Post

What happened at the locks that night, Crown prosecutors alleged in Ontario Superior Court Thursday, was a so-called “honour killing,” the culmination of a violent misogynist Afghan culture that had been transplanted holus-bolus years earlier into the heart of central Canada.
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“May the devil s— on their graves,” Mohammad Shafia told his second wife, Tooba Mohammad Yahya, 20 days after the bodies of the couple’s three teenage daughters and Mr. Shafia’s first wife were recovered from a car in the water at the locks.

Found dead by drowning in a black Nissan Mr. Shafia had bought just eight days earlier – the suggestion implicit that he got it for that very purpose — were Rona Amir Mohammad, the barren wife who had been presented to the children and outsiders both as an “auntie,” and rebellious daughters Zainab, 19, Sahar, 17, and 13-year-old Geeti.

Charged with four counts each of first-degree murder are Mr. Shafia, Ms. Yahya and their oldest son Hamed, who was 18 at the time. All are pleading not guilty.



Read more: http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/10/20/christie-blatchford-%E2%80%98i-would-do-it-again%E2%80%99-court-hears-horror-of-an-alleged-honour-killing/



Tragic, and avoidable deaths that could have been averted if Canadian authorities were more responsive to the claims of these poor, innocent victims.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 11:55 AM
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1. let's invade their home country and try to change their society from its 10K year old ways nt
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LaydeeBug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 07:56 PM
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11. Let's not pretend that 10K yr old ways are some how "more acceptable" because they're old...
If I made it part of my faith to slaughter your kid, would that be ok?

shake. my. fucking. head.
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chrisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 02:19 PM
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14. Not.
Edited on Sun Oct-23-11 02:20 PM by chrisa
It stopped being worth it even before the first American life was lost.
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 11:57 AM
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2. Sounds to me like some social workers and politicians need to be imprisoned too
For gross negligence at the least.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 12:03 PM
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3. At the very least, children's complaints should be followed up on in confidence.
The youngest girl, who was the most vocal to authorities, clammed up when the counselor intended to confront the parents in the girl's presence.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 12:15 PM
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5. Would you have had to bring up religion and culture to do so?
Is there a way to be culturally sensitive yet remove the girls?
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4saken Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 01:49 PM
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7. Why would one be afraid to address typical activities(culture) of any group?
That very fear may very well have lead them to not take action, or fully question the specifics as the children asked for help. An inability to objectively look at one's own activities based on their merits directly contributed to this. If you think people need to be sensitive to people's activities regardless, especially those for which fallacious appeals(like to tradition) are made, you're just contributing to this kind of tragedy. Each group of inherited activities(cultures) have sub-cultures within them. Every culture has their problems and must be questioned along side all other ideas and the activities they inform.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 07:51 PM
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10. There is no need to be "culturally sensitive" about abuse, especially in Canada
This is the 21st century, not the 10th. This asshole needs to adapt to modern society; modern society does not need to be "culturally sensitive" to him.
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iris27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 12:04 PM
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4. Wow, putting the author's name in the headline is confusing and misleading. WTF, National Post?
It sounds like she's the one saying "I would do it again", instead of the fundamentalist asshole patriarch.
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vminfla Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 07:44 PM
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9. I did not understand it myself
It was confusing with no value-add.
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richmwill Donating Member (972 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 01:00 PM
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6. Sick bastard...
He would proudly do it again? Just for some stupid pictures. Imagine how he would have reacted if they wanted to drive a car! :eyes:
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 01:53 PM
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8. Imagine how he would have reacted if they had wanted to have sex. Teenagers do this, you know.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 10:31 PM
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12. I'm reading "Better Angels of Our Nature" by Steven Pinker on violence around the world.
He mentions in many ways how having 'honor' results in violence. So too religion. What a horried death. Thankfully these people will never be free again.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 10:33 PM
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13. horrible.
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