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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 10:29 AM Original message |
Poll question: How long before the Occupation Movement fades away? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
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randome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
2. Without a targeted, sound bite message... |
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RZM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
3. I don't think it's going to be forgotten anytime soon |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
4. A founder of ‘Occupy Wall Street’ talks about movement’s origin and what comes next |
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fredamae (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
5. OWS has been at Least 40 Years |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
6. If you did not see it coming |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 10:44 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. good point |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
7. Based on the set of 'Provisional Demands' announced by the |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 10:45 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. yes, that would have been a good poll choice. |
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RZM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #7 |
16. Actually I think the idea of a viable new party is a stretch |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #16 |
42. Those are some excellent points you raise, I'll be the first to admit. And |
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RZM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. I certainly believe your assessments of Occupy LA |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. I hope they vote or they're part of the problem |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #42 |
60. Hey coalition (or anyone), is there a web site with that list of |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #60 |
70. The website does not help much. You get an abbreviated version |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 10:48 PM Response to Reply #70 |
87. Thanks. That gives me a little clearer view of |
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a simple pattern (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 12:30 PM Response to Reply #7 |
50. It wouldn't be a shift leftward, though. |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
10. As the song says... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
12. It will be getting very cold in much of the US in the next couple of months. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:05 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. For folks who are homeless that really doesn't change their conditions now does it? nt |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #14 |
37. Probably not but for those who aren't it sure will. That's not really the point though |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
13. Without coherent goals or aims, it is petering out now, imo. nt |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:06 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. What part of "economic equality" do you not understand? nt |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:08 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. "Economic equality" isn't possible under a laissez-faire economic model. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:11 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Your comment was goals/aims - "economic equality" is the goal |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:15 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. No. That's an abstract statement of principle. The *hard choices* needed to get there |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:41 AM Response to Reply #21 |
33. I see a lot of folks trying to Co-opt the movement, but this movement's goal is to address |
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RZM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:13 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. That's a fairly broad slogan though, not a plan |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Just to amplify your point. THIS is the problem when you claim to speak for 99%... |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #20 |
64. He said goal - not plan. Until I gave him the goal that is - then it became |
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RZM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 04:46 PM Response to Reply #64 |
73. Please. I'm not trying to shut down a damn thing |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. They are doing just fine. The winter will drive some indoors for sure, |
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RZM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 05:30 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Why the hostility? |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 05:34 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Disagree with your characterization - |
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RZM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 05:48 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. LOL. I knew that was coming |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Blah, blah, blah. |
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RZM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 10:04 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Right. So politeness is now another tool the power structure uses to keep us all in check |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #13 |
22. Here, hopefully you can get the point of OWS from this: |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. OK. We know what we are protesting. So...what are our (SPECIFIC) goals? |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. How about: To put an end to economic injustice? nt |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. That's a little too narrow for my tastes. How about just protesting against "bad stuff"? |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #27 |
49. Obviously, a large number of people get it. I'm genuinely sorry |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. I'm sorry, but we live in a world in which ideas must be translated into action |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 01:26 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Honestly, it is not the fact that you disagree with me that |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 01:32 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. You're doubling down on insults, when you should be doubling down on explication. |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 01:55 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. LOL! OK, whatever... congratulations, you win. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. I know. Whatever. Discussion on a message board? Likely homophobic, but in any event conservative |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 01:33 PM Response to Reply #27 |
58. I imagine what we may define as "too narrow" is more often than not... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Um, that was *sarcasm*. |
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randome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:28 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. How about increased financial regulations, to start with? |
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randome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. If you have to show a cartoon... |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #28 |
35. LOL! You gotta be kidding me... |
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randome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. I know that. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #13 |
34. In my city it is growing. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 05:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
79. At last night's General Assembly at Occupy Los Angeles, the |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
18. With all due respect, anyone who is surprised that OWS |
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Charronxyz (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
23. The economic situation will not get any better... |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
30. If they are smart they will morph into a political party. nt |
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Modern_Matthew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
31. Long after the cynics die off. nt |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
32. There is only one aspect of OWS that I think may be in danger of |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
36. I think it depends largely on how they integrate allies |
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the other one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
38. I am the (currently) 54% |
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dogknob (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
39. Depends on how many cynical, lazy people can't get out of their funk |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
41. When it gets cold, or Ipads go on sale. |
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Modern_Matthew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 11:59 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. "Ipads go on sale." Real cute. Which RW publication did you steal that from? nt |
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truevote (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
45. A decade or longer |
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randome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. A decade? Really? |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 10:49 AM Response to Reply #54 |
92. It will be a generational thing, so which OWS camp were you born in? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
46. Other |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
48. movements like these never stay the same but signal change in other |
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Earth_First (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
51. How many more polls or threads regarding this issue must be made? |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 12:59 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Huh? What do you mean?11? |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
57. I chose that it will be around for years but it does have the potential to morph into a new party if |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
63. Wait 'til the continued bailouts crash the economy again. |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. I definitely agree with you about what's coming down the |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
65. How do you possibly think this thread can help? You could have spent this time |
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AmandaMae (330 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
67. "Over" doesn't necessarily mean "forgotten". |
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workinclasszero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
68. How long will it take to tame or abolish wall street? |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. Excellent response. nt |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
69. Almost everyone already agrees with the basic complaints OWS is raising |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
71. So, Liberal, you can see how things are around here |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 07:02 PM Response to Reply #71 |
85. still not sure. Hard to guage the public based on DUers. I remember how committed DUers |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
72. It's like this |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
77. The factionization and internal divisions that will ultimately kill it are already apparent |
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dogknob (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 05:41 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. Your cynical viewpoint is becoming less and less relevant n/t |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 05:46 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. I'm sure it will continue to become less and less relevant in the eyes of those who... |
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TNLib (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
83. Depends what happens next |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
88. I have no idea. nt |
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Township75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
89. It will die off after the 2012 elections. |
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Phentex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
90. Until the 12th of never and |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 10:44 AM Response to Reply #90 |
91. I hope so! |
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AsahinaKimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
93. I really don't know.. |
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