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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 05:28 PM
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PETA Suit: SeaWorld Whales Are 'Slaves'
PETA Suit: SeaWorld Whales Are 'Slaves'

ORLANDO, Fla. -- A federal court is being asked to grant constitutional rights to five killer whales who perform at marine parks -- an unprecedented and perhaps quixotic legal action that is nonetheless likely to stoke an ongoing, intense debate at America's law schools over expansion of animal rights.

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals is accusing the SeaWorld parks of keeping five star-performer whales in conditions that violate the 13th Amendment ban on slavery. SeaWorld depicted the suit as baseless.

The chances of the suit succeeding are slim, according to legal experts not involved in the case; any judge who hews to the original intent of the authors of the amendment is unlikely to find that they wanted to protect animals. But PETA relishes engaging in the court of public opinion, as evidenced by its provocative anti-fur and pro-vegan campaigns.

The suit, which PETA says it will file Wednesday in U.S. District Court in San Diego, hinges on the fact that the 13th Amendment, while prohibiting slavery and involuntary servitude, does not specify that only humans can be victims.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/29588940/detail.html
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 05:32 PM
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1. My cat is taking notes and interviewing lawyers
Will be hard for her to prove in court that she 'performs,' however.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 06:30 PM
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11. A cat? My guess is that *you* are the slave (nt)
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 09:06 AM
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15. By gar, you're right!
I'm an animal too! I won't stand for being my cat's slave any longer!
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 05:33 PM
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2. Fascinating.
I like to see new theories pop up in lawsuits about protected groups.

When I was in law school, from 1980-1985, nobody talked about gay rights or gay marriage.

Times change and new protected classes pop up.

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badtoworse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 05:33 PM
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3. PETA also wanted ice cream made from breast milk instead of cow's milk
Edited on Wed Oct-26-11 05:34 PM by badtoworse
Nothing they do surprises me.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 05:41 PM
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4. PETA's action hurts the animals rights movement more then it ever helps. /nt
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 05:52 PM
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5. Corporations have been declared people; declaring animals people doesn't seem as far fetched. nt
Edited on Wed Oct-26-11 05:53 PM by ZombieHorde
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 05:53 PM
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6. PETA would rather see them euthanized.
They believe in better dead than living like that.

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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 06:27 PM
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9. Link, please?
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 05:54 PM
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7. Orcas are not "human beings"
Noun
slavery (plural slaveries)

  1. An institution or social practice of owning human beings as property, especially for use as forced laborers.
  2. A condition of servitude endured by a slave.
  3. (figuratively) A condition in which one is captivated or subjugated, as by greed or drugs.




If orcas were non-human intelligence, then they would be "people", although not human beings, which is probably enough because after all, corporations are "people" too, and they have rights.

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AngkorWot Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 06:17 PM
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8. Don't they disbar lawyers over shit like this?
I'm thinking of the birthers, for example, or the guy who was always suing video games.
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Bladian Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 06:28 PM
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10. Jack Thompson.
I hate that guy.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 08:07 PM
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14. Not usually disbarment, but it does violate Rule 11 of the FRCP
And the corresponding rule in virtually every state jurisdiction.

The lawyer can be sanctioned by the court, which leaves the door open. Most likely, the case will be dismissed and PETA could be ordered to pay Sea World's attorney fees and costs. The court could also impose a fine on the lawyer that filed the crap.

Bake
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 06:31 PM
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12. Glad I'm not late to the show.
:popcorn:
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 06:32 PM
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13. PETA is just totally nuts.
Even though I am a meat eater, I would respect them if they focused on stuff like humane treatment of farm animals and laboratory animals.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 09:10 AM
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16. One could argue there is no such thing as humane treatment
for factory farmed animals or laboratory animals. How can you humanely torture a lab animal? They do advocate for humane slaughter of factory farmed animals.
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