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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 06:45 PM
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Alert:Oakland Mayor news conference NOW@.
Edited on Wed Oct-26-11 06:45 PM by formercia
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 06:58 PM
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1. Kick n/t
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:03 PM
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2. The official word is that NO rubber bullets or flash bangs were used last night n/t
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:03 PM
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4. Oakland police chief saying that it may have been other departments' inventory in use
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occupyeverywhere Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:05 PM
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8. They are cornered
trying to spread the blame
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:05 PM
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9. Did anyone ask them about wooden bullets?
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:08 PM
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13. They did, again, not in their inventory but could have been by other departments serving mutual aid
nt
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:09 PM
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14. Hmm. I don't believe them. They had them in 2003.
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MurrayDelph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:28 PM
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32. Irrelevant
If Oakland called in other agencies, they were acting in Oakland's name, so Oakland is still culpable.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:03 PM
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5. Who are you going to believe. The mayor or your lyin' eyes.
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:04 PM
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6. Oh, I agree! n/t
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:05 PM
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So are they claiming the videos were doctored?
Or are they just pretending the videos don't exist?

These people are liars and we will make sure they are exposed to the world as liars.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:09 PM
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15. Fuck her... she is a liar! She should be recalled if possible and charged
Edited on Wed Oct-26-11 07:26 PM by fascisthunter
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:09 PM
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17. That would be a her.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:12 PM
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20. gawd damn.... thank you
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:16 PM
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25. Oh how Orwellian.
Just LIE. I mean, why not?
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:24 PM
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30. I remember reading about Bush being taught to lie by his own mother
that you never tell the truth, that you instead lie and keep lying until the questioner gives up.
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:03 PM
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3. They're saying rubber bullets aren't in their inventory. n/t
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:04 PM
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7. Then they were probably wooden bullets which they used against anti-war protestors
in 2003.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:05 PM
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10. They were in SOMEbody's inventory --
I read there were cops from other jurisdictions there -- perhaps that is where they came from?? Who really cares, they were used against protestors, period.
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:06 PM
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11. The mayor is currently prasing the coverage of the media for keeping her up to date
I seem to recall that several news affiliates cut their feeds as the tear gas started flying...
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:07 PM
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12. "Who's idea was the raid?" -SF Chronicle
Mayor Quan: We're going to await the offical reports to determine....blah blah blah...

Dodge and Weave, mayor!
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:09 PM
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16. Wow, she might fall over from --
the sidestepping she did on that one. :wow:
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:10 PM
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18. "Why was the sonic cannon deployed last night?" -Occupy Chronicle
"We saw it set up and deployed, do you have one? It's a military device, sir."

"Yes, we have the technology, yes it was on site, no it was not deployed."
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:11 PM
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19. Is the mayor a Republican?
This doesn't sound right to me at all.
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:12 PM
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21. No n/t
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:15 PM
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23. Oh, okay, so she's just insane then.
Because the level of violence those protestors met just for staying too late in the park was over-the-top and not warranted.
Brown had better step in and tell them to take it down a notch.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:18 PM
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26. Nope, she is supposed to be a liberal Democrat. Well, you can't be a liberal fascist.
Smoke, mirrors, lies, spin, three card monty, and the illusion of democracy powered by excuses, "brand loyalty", and the cult of personality.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:24 PM
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29. that's your nu and improved liberal democrat
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:39 PM
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35. Hahahaha!!
Whatever, dood!!!
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:14 PM
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22. (July 7, 2010) Oakland Cops Decide to Not Use Sound Cannon on Protesters
Updated: The Oakland Police Department has shelved its controversial new crowd-control weapon, a sonic cannon capable of causing extreme pain, because of efforts by activists who posted links on Facebook to the recent purchase order of the Long Range Acoustic Device 300 X Mass Communications System.

“The LRAD is a very dangerous device that can cause permanent hearing loss. The Canadian Civil Liberties Union recently obtained an injunction against LRAD deployment in Toronto, Canada, after police threatened its use during the recent G-20 summit,” Oakland attorney Michael Siegel wrote in the Facebook note in which he tagged hip hop journalist Davey D and Oakland Councilwoman Jean Quan.

...


“OPD should not use such a dangerous and little-understood device on Oakland civilians. This device appears unfit for any use at all, much less against local residents exercising their First Amendment rights of expression and association,” Siegel wrote, referring to the impending demonstration scheduled for the day of former BART officer Johannes Mehserle’s trial verdict.

The letter spurred Quan and council President Jane Brunner to call Police Chief Anthony Batts. The following day, Siegel said, Batts told Quan and Brunner that he would not deploy the weapon against protesters who will convene at City Hall on the night of the verdict.


http://www.eastbayexpress.com/92510/archives/2010/07/07/oakland-cops-decide-to-not-use-sound-cannon-on-protesters
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:16 PM
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24. Hmmm...this press conference seems to contradict this n/t
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:20 PM
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27. I heard something in one of the videos and saw a protester
covering their ears. It was a chirping sound.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:22 PM
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28. The chirping sound may be the crosswalk signals.
They "chirp" in the East Bay for blind walkers -- very common sound there,but not sure 100% that is what you heard.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:34 PM
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34. We have chirping crosswalk signals some places here in Los Angeles, and they
sure as hell aren't anything you need to cover your ears over.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:58 PM
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37. We have them as well.
I'm going back to the video and check it out again.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:25 PM
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31. The reporters claim that is it illegal for OPD to have or use the device on US citizens is not true
Probably should be, but as best I can tell there is not law against it at this time.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:33 PM
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33. They used the LRAD on university students in Pittsburgh
during the G20 in 2009. The police were out of control, indiscriminately throwing gas cannisters at students who were not even participating in the protests.

Our country is becoming a police state.
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TNLib Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:50 PM
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36. When the hell are these cities going to figure out in this day and age of information
They are doing nothing but adding fuel to the fire. This mayor and sheriff need to have their asses handed to them by the cities tax payers. They just cost that city a small fortune and have only added fuel to the OWS movement.
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