I wish I knew the story behind this picture...

[one_voice]

I found it on facebook...it was on some asshole's profile..but the picture is great...

[FSogol]

1. Caption: You go Girl!

:thumbsup:

[one_voice]

3. That's the first thing I thought...

too. It's an awesome picture. I bet it has a great story.

[MADem]

2. That is different! The guy reminds me of Schultz (I know nothing, I see nothing) NT

[RC]

4. It looks like it was taken during the Civil Right era.

Back when skin color determined how equal you were. That was before money took its place.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

5. I gotta say I love that pic! nt

[NBachers]

6. That's great! 98 pounds of dynamite

This guy thought he had an easy target 'till she ripped his face off

[ben_thayer]

7. OOOOWeeee! She's SO

[starroute]

8. I checked Google Images -- and the picture is getting around

But nobody identifies where it came from.

(To do a reverse image search through Google Images, first get the URL for the image. In Firefox, you do this by right-clicking on the image and then clicking on "Copy Image Location." Then go to Google Images, click on the little camera icon at the right of the search window, and paste the URL in the popup. Google will display images that are the same or in some way similar.)

[trumad]

9. hate to find out what happened next.

[Drew Richards]

10. I believe I remember that photo and it is from the selma riots.

[Drew Richards]

42. and yes what happened next was she got beat the ^&*( out of and hauled off to jail

for some reason I think her name was maryanne johnson but it has been a looooong time sorry kinda senile at this point and pain medication doesn't help long term memory :)

[truebrit71]

11. The right hand looks shopped to me...

:shrug:

[Poll_Blind]

14. ELA doesn't turn up anything unusual- I think that kitty's just got some long paws!

http://errorlevelanalysis.com/permalink/31a1119/">Here. I could be wrong, though. ELA and I are far from perfect.

But you'd think if this was a 'shop job they wouldn't have been too careful.

PB

[truebrit71]

19. You could be right....

...

[Fire Walk With Me]

12. Ripping off the human mask to reveal the monster beneath.

[prolesunited]

13. I find it disturbing

Violence is violence, no matter who is delivering it. Non-violence on BOTH sides.

[newspeak]

15. yeah, violence is violence.

You know what happened to some of the freedom riders back then? Dead is dead.

[prolesunited]

29. You sure are making a lot of assumptions here.

I guess we see what we will see. To me, she looks like the aggressor and I don't see any signs of him assaulting her first.

And some of the freedom riders did wind up killed because of the non-violent approach of the movement. They were told never to strike first, even in the face of overwhelming aggression.

They want you to hit them first. It then provides cover for their use of force.

[Poll_Blind]

17. It is, and I agree. But a kick to a would-be rapist's balls (for instance) don't strike me the...

...same way as the rape. They're both, technically, violence. Agreed. But nothing exists in a contextual vacuum.

PB

[prolesunited]

23. There is no context for this photo

But I guess we should all assume something not in evidence.

I never said people shouldn't defend themselves, but there are no visible signs of an altercation on the woman. We don't know anything about this particular incident. Maybe it's like a Rorschach test.

[Poll_Blind]

28. Do you see what's in the man's right hand & what the woman is grabbing at as her purse slides...

...down her arm?

PB

[slackmaster]

30. I see an apparently cylindrical object that seems to be in the grip of both people

Not possible to say what it is or what was happening to it.

[Poll_Blind]

32. No, take another look. Who's wielding that baton-like object? Be honest.nt

PB

[slackmaster]

34. Impossible to tell. For all I know she was wielding it and he was taking it from her.

Maybe he was "wielding" it, or maybe simply holding it.

There is not enough information in the image to tell.

And the whole thing could simply be a fake.

[Poll_Blind]

35. Look at how each of them are gripping it. I take it you've not seen "12 angry men"?nt

PB

[slackmaster]

38. 12 Angry Men is a motion picture of high technical quality

This is a shitty still photo that could easily be staged or photoshopped, or worse. It's not possible from the information presented here to determine what was actually happening.

[prolesunited]

33. And how do you know he was trying to hit her?

He could have been holding it and she grabbed it to prevent him from hitting her as she struck him. That's just as plausible as anything else. I've gone to protests and the cops all hold batons, but I can't just grab one and say he was planning to use it on me.

Frankly, I have no idea what's really going on, which is what I said all along. I just won't applaud an ambiguous photo depicting violence. I guess I am just a bad liberal and an apologist for authority.

[Poll_Blind]

37. This is just a friendly chat about what can reasonably be deduced from a simple picture.

No reason to throw your hands in the air over and storm away over it.

There are two figures, one dressed in combat gear one in civilian clothing. The figure in combat gear is holding a baton or baton-like item with a grip for swinging while the civilian is gripping it with the weakest possible grip- a defensive one. Furthermore, she is gripping the object with the arm her purse is on and it's sliding down her arm- hardly an advantageous position either by the hand she's using (statistically, her "off" hand) and using an arm which has a purse sliding down it.

Throughout our conversation on the matter you've made statements or insinuations as you do above: "That's just as plausible as anything else."

Plausible is generally understood to mean "Seeming reasonable or probable."

I'm not sure what word you should be using but "plausible" probably isn't it.

PB

[slackmaster]

40. It could be two drunks in costume hamming it up at a Halloween party

For all we know.

Rosa Parks vs. Sergeant Schultz. But in real life they're happily married. Both are schoolteachers at a Christian academy.

[WinkyDink]

16. Interesting how "her" wrist and hand are lighter than her forearm......

[slackmaster]

31. That could be a result of reciprocity failure from a flash

Or not.

[NeedleCast]

18. The Assumptions On This Thread Are Interesting

Without having any background information on the story many posters so far seem to think it's perfectly acceptable to punch a dude in the beak. After all, she's a minority female and he appears to be a while, male member of the authoritarian establishment.

Maybe I'm just being devil's advocate.

[slackmaster]

20. I see a woman assaulting a man

What do you see, one_voice?

[one_voice]

21. Obviously I see the same thing you see...

a woman punching a man.

I said I wanted the story behind the picture. Which is a little different than what you asked me.

[slackmaster]

27. Your only comment was that you thought the picture was "great"

I see an image of shitty technical quality and obviously questionable veracity, with no context other than it came from Facebook.

I don't think it's great in any sense of the word. It's a lousy picture portraying an act of indeterminable moral value.

[one_voice]

36. That was not my only comment...

I guess you didn't read the SUBJECT LINE...in which I clearly stated..."I wish I knew the story behind this picture"

You're entitled to your opinion. I don't agree with you. I personally would like to know the story before I trash something. For all you know she was defending her child.


Have a nice day.

[slackmaster]

39. For all I know the man and the woman might be BFFs posing for a stupid photo

That's how little we know about it.

[one_voice]

41. True...

which is why I said I wish I knew the story behind the picture.

Don't know why we had to have this dance just to go back to my original statement. Oh, that's right, it was so you could trash a picture you know nothing about...

Whatever....

[slackmaster]

43. I've been an amateur photographer for more than 50 years.

I know a shitty photo when I see one.

[Contrary1]

22. Delete

[prolesunited]

24. Can't follow the logic

Please help me.

[Contrary1]

26. I was deleting while you posted your reply...

mainly because I thought it over, and came up with the same conclusion you did. :hi:

[Fumesucker]

25. Tineye image search engine says the same image is at the second link...

http://www.tineye.com/search/696c481c4c28de65d460af659222a85c2ea2be42/

But there's a lot of stuff on the page and I haven't found it yet.

http://www.sodahead.com/topic/controversial-therapy-camp-council-gay/