Super Committee Democrats To The Rescue!

[SomethingFishy]

Only $400 billion in medicare cuts. And only $200 billion of that will come from the pockets of the poor and elderly.

http://crooksandliars.com/rj-eskow/wanna-watch-ass-kicking-itself-read-dems-
(Edit: For some reason I can't get this link to post right. Either add a hyphen at the end of it or use the link in post #12... Sorry :shrug: )


..Their plan calls for $400 billion in Medicare and Medicaid savings, half or which would come from benefit cuts for the seniors, disabled, and low-income people who rely on these programs. The higher out-of-pocket costs for these vulnerable populations would leave many of them with less to spend on necessities, taking billions out of the economy and creating even more economic stagnation. Not to mention the hardship and suffering ...

The other $200 billion would presumably be found by cutting provider reimbursements - which makes sense if done wisely, but which will only create shortages and access problems if done foolishly. (Wise or foolish: Bets, anyone?)

According to the Wall Street Journal, the Democrats also support moving the government to a "chained CPI" cost-of-living adjustment (COLA) calculation for Social Security. That would shortchange everybody receiving benefits, including people already receiving them.

The current COLA is already a raw deal for seniors, disabled people, and the poor, and now these Dems want to double down on it. The chained-CPI would also raise taxes on people who aren't already in the highest tax bracket by accelerating "bracket creep."
So let's sum up what we've heard so far: Democrats want to cut Social Security and Medicare, and they also want to raise taxes on everybody but the rich. Enjoy your "change," America...

Thank god we have these Democrats fighting for us in Washington, without them the elderly and poor might get totally fucked over!

[redqueen]

1. Sickening.

K&R

[roguevalley]

34. poor and elderly. may they all end up the same way, the nazi fuckers.

[Enrique]

2. are they not merciful? n/t

[NICO9000]

18. I'm sure they think they are

:puke:

[woo me with science]

38. They are ruling, not representing. nt

[piratefish08]

3. seriously.

did you expect anything different?

it was never whether we were getting fucked or not, only to what degree........

[RoccoR5955]

4. BASS TURDS! n/t

[Fumesucker]

5. Waiting for a flood of little blue links telling us why black is white and up down in 3.. 2.. 1..

[ixion]

25. "two by two, with hands of blue"

just sayin'...

[Jakes Progress]

32. And we've always been at war with Eurasia... I mean with Eastasia...

I mean... uh...No. with Eura....

Hell it keeps changing so fast. But anyway, whatever they say must be what it is. Right? O'Brien said so.

[Fumesucker]

37. Forget it Jake..

It's Darwinian natural selection..

There's an evolutionary pressure against people capable of seeing irony, all their heads are exploding, one by one as they reach their tolerance ultimate overload level.

Edited for accuracy..

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

6. Yay! Another glorious achievement to add to The List! K&R

[JoePhilly]

7. So the GOP has accepted this, right????

[SomethingFishy]

15. Actually according to the article the Republicans proposal

had less cuts... :shrug:

[OhioChick]

8. Shameful n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. Hey boys and gals...you are about to add some gas

To that fire!!!

[redqueen]

17. +1

[woo me with science]

39. +100000 nt

[MannyGoldstein]

10. "Time for old folks to eat their peas... and catfood"

Note to the parody-challenged: that's not an actual quote.

[bvar22]

11. The SHAM is getting harder to defend every day.

Only the truly blind are still following The Piper.


You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their Campaign Marketing.


Solidarity99!
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[woo me with science]

19. Blind or complicit. nt

[chill_wind]

12. "Page not found"

Is this it?

http://crooksandliars.com/rj-eskow/wanna-watch-ass-kicking-itself-read-dems-

[slay]

14. Yes, you posted the right link - the original one was missing a dash at the end

This is the correct one: http://crooksandliars.com/rj-eskow/wanna-watch-ass-kicking-itself-read-dems-

[SomethingFishy]

16. Yes thanks! I have tried twice to post the link and for some

reason it will not work for me.

[slay]

13. Really makes you wonder what it means to be a "Democrat" these days

pro-corporate... cuts to medicare... tax cuts for billionaires.. escalating a pointless war in Afghanistan..

Sounds a whole lot like a Republican to me! I see almost no difference between the two now except on some very few social issues. :( :mad:

And of course the GOP of today are pretty fuckin nuts - but the Dems of today seem to have become the Republicans of 20 years ago!! Sickening. :puke:

[gratuitous]

20. I wonder if the Republicans will use this against the Democrats?

I mean, they're the ones really driving this train, so it would be just the height of hypocrisy for them to take this proposal and . . .

Nevermind. I just answered my own stupid question. Another brilliant maneuver by our Democratic leaders.

[woo me with science]

21. K&R

No words are sufficient for this. We have been warning about this for months.

This, along with the rest of the abominations we have been witnessing from our corporate-sucking government, IS the reason for OWS.

[Magoo48]

22. Broken...

With 10 percent approval rating these fuckers would be irrelevant in a any government that was truly "Of The People".

[Warren DeMontague]

23. GOD HELP US, WE CANT CUT DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!@!!!

:eyes:

[KamaAina]

29. OR RAISE TAXES!!!!!!!!!!!!!@!!!

:(

[Warren DeMontague]

35. here's a wacky idea: how about BOTH.

and end the drug war + legalize, regulate, and TAX pot, while we're at it. :shrug:

[KamaAina]

40. Communist.

:P

:sarcasm:

[woo me with science]

24. We no longer have a representative government.

Change no longer comes from the ballot box. Both parties have been bought.

"Representatives," my ass.

[in_cog_ni_to]

26. slef delete

[sad sally]

27. Look at the lobbying cash these unbiased politicians have raised

since the beginning of their tenure as secret super committee members. Quite a haul from the health industry.
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Rep. James Clyburn (S.C.), the third-ranking member of the House Democratic leadership, does not sit on any regular committees with jurisdiction over the health industry, but has raised more than $57,000 from healthcare-related PACs since his appointment to the debt supercommittee. Some of his contributions come from interests that want to minimize cuts to Medicare and Medicaid, such as the American Hospital Association, HealthSouth Corp., DaVita Inc. — which provides kidney dialysis treatment — and HCR Manor Care, which specializes in assisted-living care.
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Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-Texas), another member of the supercommittee, has raised more than $130,000 from special-interest PACs since being named the panel’s co-chairman on Aug. 10. Nearly $20,000 of that total came from healthcare PACs while at least $6,000 came from energy-industry PACs and at least $2,000 came from defense-related companies — Raytheon and General Electric.
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Rep. Xavier Becerra (D-Calif.) has received $30,000 from healthcare-related PACs since he joined the supercommittee, including $1,000 from General Electric, which could lose business if defense spending receives deep cuts.

Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) has raised $21,000 from healthcare PACs and $39,000 from other PACs since joining the supercommittee.
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The latest campaign fundraising reports for the remaining members of the panel, Sens. Patty Murray (D-Wash.), Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.), were not available at press time.

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/188083-k-street-money-flowing-into-deficit-panel?du

(both Sens Murray and Kyl are recipients of substantial cash from defense industry lobbyists - bet either of them will cut the hands that feed their campaign coffers? nah, it's easier to crap on old and/or poor people who don't send them big re-election checks.)

[Jakes Progress]

28. The New Democrat strategy. Give up before the battle starts.

We wanted change, and we got it. Democrats used to fight for the people. See? Change.

[woo me with science]

30. They are not giving up.

This is what the New Democrats wanted all along.

[Jakes Progress]

31. Yeah. But it is a new strategy for people with a D by their name.

[redqueen]

36. "This is what the New Democrats wanted all along."

That sums it all up, right there.

[chill_wind]

33. Using our safety nets to play political chicken with Republicans..

Ours. Chits in a political game. Their financial security and their children's security is fine. :puke:

The Hill's 2011 50 Wealthiest in Congress
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x626149

[Jakes Progress]

41. I think you are giving the New Democrats

better motives than what really drives them. True, they are playing with our lives and our children, but it's not like they want the republicans to blink. They don't take that chance. They blink before the staring contest starts because they don't want to take the chance that something might happen like the republicans compromising. That is not what they want. They want the cuts and the rich tax breaks.

[dreamnightwind]

42. Campaign money

They're pleasing the corporate donors to make sure they don't lose all that corporate campaign cash. Just like the corporations play the left-wing citizens against the right-wingers using divisive social issues, they also keep reps of both parties desperate to please the corporationm, to prevent the money from going to the other party. Either way, we get screwed. Occupy!

[Scuba]

43. Wolves in sheep's clothing. When will the People throw out these DINO's?

[FlyByNight]

44. With "friends" like these, etc.

One percent, uber alles.

:puke:

[blkmusclmachine]

45. REAL Democrats would never do this:

But fake "New Democrats" would. In a heartbeat. They'd just need a cover. In fact, they'd probably set up their own Catfood Commish, extracongressionally and against huge popular support for the programs they salivate to drown in a bathtub. Just to be "bi-partisany" with the Teabagging Economic Terrorists that want to blow up this Country, y'know? And isn't John Kerry on the Catfood Commish?? Sickening.

Democratic Party, R.I.P.