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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-11 06:30 PM Original message |
Marine: "He was aiming at him-Oakland Used Crowd Control Methods That Are Prohibited In War Zones" |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-11 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
1. Recommend! |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-11 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
2. He was aiming at him. |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 06:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
57. Assumes cops are perfect shots and the victim was stationary. |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 11:13 PM Response to Reply #57 |
72. IMO, it assumes that the cop wasn't using proper technique |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-11 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
3. K&R. eom |
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louslobbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-11 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
4. K&R n/t |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-11 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
5. WOW! These Cops just Made themselves the Bad Guys.... |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 06:20 PM Response to Reply #5 |
60. Nope. YOU just made them the bad guys. Enjoy your divided and conquered Occupy movement. |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 07:03 PM Response to Reply #60 |
69. I normally support the police but in this case the protesters |
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democrank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-11 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
6. Ready....aim....FIRE! |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-11 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
7. With the drug war, the cops have had nothing but sitting ducks for decades. |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-11 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
8. This has to be a crime. The cop who did it should/MUST be prosecuted. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. And those who gave the orders to use such force need to be |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 02:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. City Administrator Deanna Santana developed the plan |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 02:30 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Don't know about the jurisdiction rules, but even if there is |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. I got that information from the Mayor's Facebook page |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 03:48 PM Response to Reply #31 |
43. I've got a rage-on for deanna Santana now, too. I just read |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-11 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
9. There is a tendency to confuse ROE with legal limits |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 09:14 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Are you saying that firing tear gas into a crowd at close range.. |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 12:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. At a minimum, it's assault under color of authority, expert witnesses will convince a jury |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 05:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
53. Good viewpoint. Thanks for offering up the links. n/t |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 01:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. I am saying the citing the ROE in Afganistan is not relevant in the slightest |
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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #20 |
33. First things first |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 03:44 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. I think you stated this perfectly -- sent out to stop the protest, |
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UnrepentantLiberal (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 05:03 PM Response to Reply #33 |
52. Not gonna happen. Forget about it. (Remember the Rodney King video?) |
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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-30-11 10:40 PM Response to Reply #52 |
75. Probably not |
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cyglet (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-11 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
10. If |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
12. recommend |
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joanbarnes (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
13. I'm stunned, but of course, he is correct. |
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tuckessee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
14. This is laughable. |
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Muskypundit (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 11:59 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. You have not a damn clue. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 01:50 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. +1 nt |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 06:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
61. Sorry, but everyone is fallible. And dividing and conquering police vs. soldiers benefits only the |
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Muskypundit (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 06:44 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. Sure everyone is fallible. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. that same military |
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pasto76 (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 02:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
27. no I dont. Do you? were you there? ...of course you werent. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #14 |
56. I hear you. I understand where you are coming from. |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
15. Yep... K & R !!! |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
18. It was pretty obvious. |
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sce56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
19. Let's hope Scott is luckier than Rubén Salazar |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Good find. And having had that happen, you'd think they'd |
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sce56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #24 |
37. Here is a photo taken just before the LA Sheriffs Deputy murdered Salazar |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #37 |
49. I'm not sure if the piece is saying that he was specifically |
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sce56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 09:00 PM Response to Reply #49 |
70. I was getting at the fact that it was a callous use of force shooting a Wall piercing round through |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 04:37 PM Response to Reply #37 |
50. Here's a pic of the police line-up behind Scott Olsen: |
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UnrepentantLiberal (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
25. The cop who did this should be put on trial for attempted murder. |
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pasto76 (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
26. well. Isnt that interesting. takes the wind out of any notion OPD was responding to assault... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 03:50 PM Response to Reply #26 |
44. It's remarkable that the crowd in Oakland was so well behaved |
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pasto76 (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
28. has conclusive proof been found that it was a CS canister? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 03:52 PM Response to Reply #28 |
45. Howard Jordon isn't exactly over-exerting himself looking for evidence. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
32. He was aiming at him. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
34. Kicked and recommended. |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
35. K & R |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
36. k&r |
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mckara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
38. The Guilty Policeman Should be Prosecuted. Period! |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
39. Although unlikely, |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
40. Anonymous say they have identified the culprit. eom |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 04:30 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. Good |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Yes it does. |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
47. Great read. K and R |
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Marnie (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
51. Why are cops not tested for personality disorders. |
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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 05:16 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Oddly enough... |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
55. K&R n/t |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
58. Whoa. n/t |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
59. The 1% WANTS you to hate the police. So, by all means, HATE the police. |
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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 06:23 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. When is it time to say enough? |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 06:25 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. The correct response is to get the police to change the policies that call for extraordinary force. |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
63. This whole thread is one big divide and conquer opportunity for Wall Street. |
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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 06:26 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. This is true |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 06:28 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. It should take you down on the ground just like in the Civil Rights movement. Go limp. |
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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 06:34 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. I hope you're right |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
71. By this logic, a US service member was aiming at Pat Tillman in Afghanistan. |
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burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-11 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
73. K&R |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-30-11 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
74. This makes me feel ill. |
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