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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 05:48 AM
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On GETTING Rove for the theft of Ohio in 2004.
If We can't clean up this fetid, stinking mess, we will NEVER have the people's will done on Election Day.. The firms that are still banging away at this are heroes.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Ohio-Heroes-On-Path-To-Dep-by-Marta-Steele-111028-585.html

In both Ohio and Florida, the secretaries of state, Kenneth Blackwell and Katherine Harris, respectively, played dual roles as directors of elections and chairpersons of the Republican campaigns to (re-)elect Bush as president. Such patterns, at both the local and federal levels, pose severe threats to the survival of democracy, Fitrakis and his colleagues have warned many times.


On July 20, 2011, Fitrakis and his fellow prosecutors filed a new brief that decisively proves that the Ohio election was stolen. Included are a diagram of the election production system--the "man-in-the-middle" structure and the deposition of the late Michael Connell, the staunch Republican IT guru for the Bush family and Karl Rove since 2000 and creator of the system.

Enough information was extracted from Connell to shift Rove's prognostications, which contradicted poll predictions, to a victory for Obama instead of McCain at the eleventh hour before Election Day--Monday evening, November 3, 2008. Rover had been that sure, until that eleventh hour, that Connell's elaborate system would effectively hand victory to yet another Republican president.

The shift was as sudden and accomplished as the vote jumps at 11:15 p.m. in Ohio on Election Day in 2004 that subtracted 400,000 from Kerry's total--poof!The Ohio attorneys' filing also includes the contract signed between Blackwell and Connell's company, GovTech Solutions, and a graphic architectural map of the secretary of state's election-night server layout system.


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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 05:50 AM
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1. Excelsior! Occupy Democracy!
Edited on Sat Oct-29-11 05:53 AM by SpiralHawk
Shouted the honorable citizens of these United States of America.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 06:07 AM
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2. Get thee to the greatest page
Great news
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 06:11 AM
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3. Kicked and recommended! nt
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 06:22 AM
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4. Kkkarl is a figurehead for Misanthropes!!!!K&R!!!!!
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 06:24 AM
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5. They stole it.
It's good that they are pursuing this. Rove and Blackwell should be pounding salt in a rat hole at the Crowbar Hotel.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 06:38 AM
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6. And yet the Democratic Party didn't fight that outcome when we all knew...
...Ohio was stolen.
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 06:53 AM
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8. And they wont fight in 2012..If this election is close
we lose.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 06:58 AM
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9. This is why I am a Dem only for primary purposes - there's really only one party.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 10:06 PM
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24. Please don't say that. the bigger the margin the harder it is to steal.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 01:54 PM
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38. Oh, I'll vote but I won't work for the party anymore. It's too happy to be...
...the other side of the corporate whore coin.
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 09:36 PM
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22. Edwards wanted to, but Kerry gave up. n/t
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 10:26 PM
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26. Wasn't Kerry convinced by Carville that it was hopeless
after Carville talked it over with Matlin (his wife) who had it from the R camp unbeknownst to Kerry?

We were too trusting of the Blue Dogs ... like Carvile. Why we tolerate that moron amongst us still I have no idea.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 01:55 PM
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39. Yeah, the establishment Dems didn't want to fight it.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 04:31 PM
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40. I think what bothered me tho is that Carville had the insider
Bush camp info and he let Kerry stand down. I have never trusted him since. Not sure why he's given a pass on this.
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Firebrand Gary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 06:46 AM
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7. While we ran around in fear as the threat level was raised. Threat Level HIGH...K&R
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 11:13 AM
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11. It was not hard to distract us in those days. Now they got what?
Michael Jackson's Doc?

This effort deserves our support.
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kimsarah Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 12:58 AM
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30. Orange alert!
gotcha
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 07:09 AM
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10. K&R
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 01:08 PM
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12. Here's Karl on his special landline, election night 2004:
Ordering pizza? I don't think so.

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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 03:28 PM
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13. K&R'd!
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 05:05 PM
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14. K&R
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 05:11 PM
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15. Sadly, even if something comes of this...
...it won't give us back those squandered years, and the progress we could have had during a Gore and/or Kerry presidency. :(

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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 07:41 PM
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20. including the Supreme Court appointees. n/t
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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 10:11 PM
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25. Too late is still better than never.
Busting up Rove and his machine will itself be a huge step forward for Democracy.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 07:08 PM
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16. The cover-up continues, I see.
Edited on Sat Oct-29-11 07:13 PM by L. Coyote
With all the usual cast members presenting the disinformation and pointing in the wrong direction.

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GET REAL: Steven Rosenfeld and Bob Fitrakis as "coincidence theorists"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x743746#743869

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The evidence of election fraud in Ohio is documented­:

How Kerry Votes Were Switched To Bush Votes
http://jqj­acobs.net/­politics/o­hio.html

"Simply put, Ohio votes were NOT all counted as cast. Many votes were miscounted­, and Kerry votes were counted for Bush. "

"In a subset of 166,953 votes, one of every 34 Ohio voters, the Kerry-Bush margin
shifts six percent when the population is sorted by outcomes of wrong-prec­inct voting."

Conclusion­s

The 2004 Ohio Presidenti­al voting results do not accurately reflect voter intentions­. ... obvious inference—­intentiona­l manipulati­on produced concentrat­ed undercount­ing, cross-voti­ng, and vote-switc­hing in areas of highest Kerry support—ca­nnot be ignored in the face of the evidence and statistics­. The possibilit­y that ballots were switched to different precincts, post-votin­g to effect vote-switc­hing, must be considered ...

... Switched-v­otes cast for Kerry and counted for Bush had twice the impact as their actual occurrence­, by each subtractin­g one from Kerry and adding one to Bush. .... Quantitati­ve analyses of candidate votes and of non-vote percentage­s evidence the cross-voti­ng and the patterns of cross-voti­ng and vote-switc­hing.

... careful considerat­ion of past errors may prove useful in avoiding their repetition and in preventing future abuses of process and power.

The 2004 Ohio Presidenti­al election remains to be fully investigat­ed. The blatant evidence of irregulari­ties and unfairness of organizati­on continues to be ignored ...”
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judesedit Donating Member (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 07:11 PM
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17. This article is absolutely correct. Anyone interested see Clinton Curtis
This country has to wake up NOW! You think this is bad, can you imagine if a re-thug gets in again. OMG. It's bad enough the democratic party is no longer democratic. Half of our Congress people are millionaires, citizens. They don't care about 99% of us. Wake up and vote the bums OUT OF OFFICE. Vote absentee ballot, too. This article is absolutely correct. God bless this country.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 07:13 PM
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19. Actually, it is disinformation of the highest order! See above.
Edited on Sat Oct-29-11 07:14 PM by L. Coyote
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kimsarah Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 01:02 AM
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32. Rethugs are in
regardless of the election outcome
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 07:13 PM
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18. K&R n/t
Lou
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 07:48 PM
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21. The Secretary of State is allowed to be the state's partisan campaign chairman?
Why is that even lawful? Anywhere??

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kimsarah Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 01:04 AM
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33. Is Private Manning's cell that big?
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joanbarnes Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 09:37 PM
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23. Michael Connell died in a "mysterious" plane crash after giving deposition. Google it.
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 10:31 PM
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27. We catch them red handed and nothing happens...
They (both sides) have a gentlemens agreement not to prosecute each other. Ask Mr. O why he didn't prosecute Bush or any of his cronies and why Rove will never spend an hour in jail. Fucking crooks ! All of them.
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Shanti Mama Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 11:02 PM
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28. What do I believe without hours of research?
Please help?
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 12:36 AM
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29. Sorry--hours of research is what this subject requires, unfortunately
Fitrakis has a number of articles out, and a book.
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kimsarah Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 01:01 AM
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31. Control of the election results
Edited on Sun Oct-30-11 01:06 AM by kimsarah
explains some of the smugness of the politicians. Yep, gentlemen's agreements.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 02:03 AM
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34. Sincerely
thanks for staying on top of this story.

k&r

:kick:
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 02:06 AM
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35. k&r n/t
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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 02:12 AM
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36. part of selling a vote theft is keeping voters out of the streets
what matters is right away, and RW radio pounds the country with -WAIT! - lets figure it out.....
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 02:25 AM
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37. Democratic Party certainly has made it a practice to IGNORE this issue -- !!!
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