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Serve The Servants Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 04:57 PM
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Student jailed 36 hours for no ID
Is there such thing as frivolous arrest, and if so, are there penalties?? There should be.

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"...Early in the morning on Oct. 22, a Saturday, Ms. Zucker, 21, and her friend Alex Fischer, also 21, were stopped by the police in Riverside Park and given tickets for trespassing. Mr. Fischer was permitted to leave after he produced his driver’s license. But Ms. Zucker, on a visit to New York City with a group of Carnegie Mellon University seniors looking for jobs in design industries, had left her wallet in a hotel two blocks away..."

"...Ms. Zucker said that throughout her stay in police station cells, other officers were shocked that she had not been given a chance to have a friend fetch her ID. “The female officers were gossiping that the officer who arrested me had an incredibly short fuse,” she said..."

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45135682/ns/us_news-the_new_york_times/t/student-jailed-nights-when-she-cant-show-id/

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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:00 PM
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1. The bastard must have just wanted one more arrest for his quota
That's the only possible justification for keeping an innocent 21-year-old in jail for 36 hours.

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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:02 PM
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2. Papers, please. nt
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:04 PM
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3. How about a lawsuit charging false imprisonment?
I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know if this can be done.

But some sort of action against that particular officer should be mounted.

He is a fucking scumbag.

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Serve The Servants Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:06 PM
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5. I would assume it's on the way... nt
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:10 PM
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10. You can sue the kkkops for just about anything as long as you have the money to hire a lawyer to do
it.

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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:05 PM
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4. Tell me again why the NYPD are heroes?
Oh, I got it. All that "9/11" bullsh*t. Heroes. Right.

You'd think the good ones, if any, would get tired of the thugs making them all look bad, and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

Bake
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:08 PM
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6. You don't have to
The USSC said such.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:10 PM
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8. Yep, and it's SOP not to carry one's wallet when protesting
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cutlassmama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:09 PM
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7. Failure to ID is a crime, but it's supposedly not an arrestable offense.
That is in my city. I don't know if they are all the same.
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Serve The Servants Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:22 PM
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14. It was my understanding that
you must identify yourself, ie. give them your name and address. Possessing an ID card is not required, if it was then why do you have to go to the DMV to get a license, or state ID card? Same for a passport. All of which are the only acceptable documents (that I know of) and all of which you have to pay for.

Though I admit I could be wrong.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:10 PM
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9. was she driving? it says her friend showed his id and was released.
is there a law that you have to have id on you at all times? i think that's ridiculous.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:12 PM
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11. In California, you don't have to carry ID.
I don't know what the rules are elsewhere.

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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:12 PM
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12. If they have a reason to believe you are doing something wrong.
And in this case they obviously do.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:15 PM
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13. read the whole thing and it doesn't really say what set the cop off
just implications: "short fuse" and "Twice, she said, the officer told her not to call him by a specific foul term."

36 hours of shuffle is way beyond but it is not a good idea to argue with cops. And NEVER say anything like "You can't arrest me for not having ID" because that is a challenge.
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Serve The Servants Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:46 PM
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15. Not sure if anything actually did set him off.
He's probably a prick normally, by default.
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