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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 05:39 PM
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Joe Walsh Melts Down, Screams At Constituents: ‘Dont Blame Banks!…I Am Tired Of Hearing That Crap!’
Joe Walsh Melts Down, Screams At Constituents: ‘Dont Blame Banks!…I Am Tired Of Hearing That Crap!’

Freshman Rep. Joe Walsh (R-IL) is known for his anti-Obama rhetoric on cable television and his inability to pay his child support payments. But during a recent meeting with constituents in his Chicago-area suburban district, Walsh lost his cool when several attendees asked about why banks have so much power in government. At one point, Walsh even threatened to a eject a man who calmly asked Walsh about the revolving door of bank lobbyists infiltrating Congress and financial regulatory agencies.

Walsh at one point screamed, “don’t blame the banks … this pisses me off!” After several constituents accurately pointed out that bank lobbyists occupy key positions within Congress, the SEC, and other oversight bodies that are supposed to supervise bank practices, Walsh began sticking his finger close to his constituent’s faces, yelling, “quiet for a minute or I’ll have to ask you to leave.” The constituent, who had calmly asked his question before being cut-off midway through his sentence, obliged:

WALSH: Thats not the problem! The problem is you’ve got to be consistent. And I dont want government meddling in the marketplace. Yeah, they move from Goldman Sachs to the White House, I understand all of that. But you gotta’ be consistent. And it’s not the private marketplace that created this mess. What created mess was your government, which has demanded for years that everybody be in a home. And we’ve made it easy as possible for people to be in homes. Don’t blame banks, and don’t blame the marketplace for the mess we’re in right now! I am tired of hearing that crap! This pisses me off! Too many people don’t listen.

(snip)
CONSTITUENT2: Joe, what did I say–

WALSH: Quiet for a minute or I’m going to ask you to leave. You need to listen, or I’m going to ask you to leave.

Watch it:
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/11/08/364180/joe-walsh-melts-down-bank-lobby/
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 05:42 PM
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1. So is he for Goldman Sachs infiltration or against it?
He seems confused.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 05:46 PM
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4. Yes. No. Maybe. BUT YOU'VE GOT TO BE CONSISTENT!
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 08:23 AM
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87. good thing he came up with that motto!
Or no one would know what he's talking about!!


:eyes:




yeesh! what a FLAMING A$$HOWL!
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 05:49 PM
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8. it was a confusing statement.

The bankers didn't cause it, the government did. However, bankers have jobs in government.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 07:56 PM
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39. It doesn't matter to him, as long as he gets his check
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Fantastic Anarchist Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 01:56 PM
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123. ... and doesn't have to pay child support. n/t
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 05:44 PM
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2. it's got to be frustrating that no one's buying it anymore
I have had jobs selling shitty product, and it's really no fun. :-(

That woman is awesome by the way. :thumbsup:
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tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 08:45 PM
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41. "shitty product"...what a wonderful way to describe the Rethuglican message!
:)
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 01:24 PM
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117. Yes, she was...She laughed at him rather than get upset, which I think is great! n/t
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 05:45 PM
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3. wow. he is under stress. Gee, I wonder why.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 08:04 AM
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85. He seems to have a very short fuse
His behavior reminds me of some drinkers I've known.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 03:08 PM
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128. Maybe the bankers who own him demand that he stand up for them
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 05:46 PM
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5. his argument is a lie. 95% of the bank ponzi scheme loans were not part of the govt initiative n/t
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 12:55 PM
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115. The entire RW mantra is but a big lie, totally, holistically, ubiquitously,
all-encompassingly. :patriot:
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 05:47 PM
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6. Maybe he should be consistent in paying his fucking child support.
Miserable piece of subhuman shit.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:59 PM
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57. well played
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 09:37 AM
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97. + 100
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 05:47 PM
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7. Hey Joe, if we don't blame the banks, you are next in line.
Just a thought.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 05:52 PM
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9. Walsh has nothing. His constituents are laughing at his ineptness and schooling....
... him on how things work.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 05:53 PM
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10. This assclown is in the bunker !
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SomethingFishy Donating Member (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 05:54 PM
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11. Be quiet or I'm going to ask you to leave...
Hmm, maybe I'm mistaken but isn't his HIS FUCKING JOB TO LISTEN? Isn't that what he gets paid for? Not to yell at people he disagrees with but to hear the things his constituents want and present those ideas to Washington?

Why is it politicians can get paid to do the opposite of what they are supposed to do and keep their jobs?
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SoutherDem Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 06:25 PM
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28. Also, wasn't that a local bar, who is he to ask anyone to leave?
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 02:13 AM
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73. As if that pitiful excuse for a human
would appear in a venue not fully controlled by a tea bagger sycophant who would back him up in suppressing any dissent or thought.
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 05:44 AM
Response to Reply #73
78. Yeah, well,
he certainly got those video clips removed quick, fast, and in a hurry...

(which completely supports your assertion...)
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 08:17 AM
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86. I was thinking the same thing
The way he was yelling at those people, management should have asked HIM to leave. He was too aggressive and inappropriate.
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Fantastic Anarchist Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 01:58 PM
Response to Reply #28
124. He's an authoritarian libertarian.
Libertarian if you listen obediently. Question him at all, and he becomes his true self; authoritarian.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:56 PM
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52. He gets his marching orders not from his constituents but from the teabag party that's run
by the Koch brothers & ALEC. Those constituents had a lot of nerve to express any opinion that doesn't toe that same line. :eyes:

His combativeness may also have been fueled by the $117,347 he owes for child support he hadn't been keeping up on.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 05:54 PM
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12. he is tired of listening to his constituents?!
sounds like joe is begging to relieved of his job
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:39 PM
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56. He was listening to his...
two pot gut constituents in the amen crowd behind him.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 05:55 PM
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13. Time for a dead pool
who lasts longer, Walsh or Herman Cain?

One might even throw Joe Paterno into the mix.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 06:25 PM
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27. paterno's already done, lol
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 06:34 PM
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31. Doomed, but not officially done
he could even make it to the end of the season.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 05:58 PM
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14. 'The problem is you’ve got to be consistent'.
Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds, we know, Joe!
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toddwv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 06:50 PM
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33. He's consistent.
He's consistently a douchebag.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 05:59 PM
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15. That...dude is nuts. nt
PB
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grntuscarora Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 05:59 PM
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16. Well, someone got out of bed on the wrong side.
but at least it's all clear to me now. We've got to be CONSISTENT!

What an ass.

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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 06:03 PM
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17. "You need to listen, or I’m going to ask you to leave"
Wow. This was his idea of "a meeting with constituents"? He talks, they 'need to listen'?
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 06:04 PM
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18. Joe Walsh: "I need more coffee."
Constituent: "I think you've had enough!"

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 06:04 PM
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19. If a majority of his constituants have any brains, the answer
is obvious-vote the assclown out!
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 06:05 PM
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20. It's the blacks dammit! The blaaaaaacks!
The evil big government made the banks give houses to those damn blacks that we spent decades keeping out of your neighborhoods in Chicago. Doesn't it always feel better to blame the government and minorities for our problems? Well sure it does.

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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 06:11 PM
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21. So much for freedom of speech...
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 06:13 PM
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22. Perhaps he's trying to get a loan or gift from the banks to cover his unpaid child support?
Whatever his motivation is, Walsh is full of shit, the government didn't force the banks to make junk loans with little or no documentation and then market/sell them as triple AAA paper to governments, pension and trust funds etc. causing massive defaults and loss of faith in the market, that was the banks.

It seems Joe Walsh is having a Marie Antoinette moment as well.



(snip)

In fact, just the opposite was true. This was an orgiastic stampede of lending, undertaken with something very like bloodlust. Far from being dragged into poor neighborhoods and forced to give out home loans to jobless black folk, companies like Countrywide and New Century charged into suburbs and exurbs from coast to coast with the enthusiasm of Rwandan machete mobs, looking to create as many loans as they could.

They lent to anyone with a pulse and they didn’t need Barney Frank to give them a push. This was not social policy. This was greed. They created those loans not because they had to, but because it was profitable. Enormously, gigantically profitable -- profitable enough to create huge fortunes out of thin air, with a speed never seen before in Wall Street's history

(snip)


Goldman then buys back those loans from Countrywide, places them in an offshore trust, and chops them up into securities. Here they use fancy math to turn a billion dollars of subprime junk into different types of securities, some of them AAA-rated, some of them junk-rated, etc. They then go out on the open market and sell those securities to various big customers – pension funds, foreign trade unions, hedge funds, and so on.

The whole game was based on one new innovation: the derivative instruments like CDOs that allowed them to take junk-rated home loans and turn them into AAA-rated instruments. It was not Barney Frank who made it possible for Goldman, Sachs to sell the home loan of an occasionally-employed janitor in Oakland or Detroit as something just as safe as, and more profitable than, a United States Treasury Bill. This was something they cooked up entirely by themselves and developed solely with the aim of making more money.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/mike-bloombergs-marie-antoinette-moment-20111103#ixzz1d9s5Eyfz



Thanks for the thread, cal.



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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 05:58 AM
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79. Indeed!
Talk to ANY insider (former realtor, former loan officer), and you'll hear similar horror stories about Countrywide and the other 'Big Lenders'--BoA, Chase, WaMu, Wells Fargo. Mozilla (one of two former loan officers who originated Countrywide) led the charge, adjuring his faithful minions to market NINAs, SISAs, ARMs, and a plethora of other risky sub-prime loans. AND, Mozilla cashed out right before Countrywide went belly up--to date, he has faced no criminal charges, no financial loss, virtually no negative consequences whatsoever.

I'll never forget the icky feeling I got in the pit of my stomach every time I heard him pontificate about 'lending to the historically disenfranchised'...
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ThomThom Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 01:13 PM
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116. yes and who created the variable rate mortgage?
and pushed it on unsuspecting buyers?
How could anyone think this was a safe bet when the rate was going to go up and the buyer's income stayed the same? This was a guaranteed failure waiting to happen.
People were given loans that were more than the house's value and more than the buyer could afford. Guarantee of failure. Criminal I think.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 01:43 PM
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119. Precisely, not to mention negative amortization mortgages which actually increased
the amount of the mortgage owed as the monthly payment wasn't covering all the interest due much less paying toward the principle and this was bank creation, the "power of the free market" not government's doing.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 04:39 PM
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133. It seems Joe Walsh is having a Marie Antoinette moment as well.
Edited on Wed Nov-09-11 04:44 PM by AlbertCat
I love this meme.

the "Marie Antoinette moment"

I hope it sticks. It can be applied now to a lot of the GOP foolishness, and in the past.... AND into the future. Any "poor pitiful banks" moment is a Marie Antoinette moment. Any "they complain but have cell phones" moment is a Marie Antoinette moment. Royal cluelessness.

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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 04:45 PM
Response to Reply #133
135. I like the phrase and it seems to capture the essence of the situation.
:)
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 06:16 PM
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23. Leave the banks alone!!!
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 06:18 PM
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24. leave the banks alone
and we'll see what happens...............jeeeezzzuzzzzz, this guy is only masquerading as a representative of the people.

Time for him to go.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 01:47 AM
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72. Leave the banks alone!
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 06:19 PM
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25. They're a Human!
:rofl:
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 06:23 PM
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26. They're people, my friend. n/t
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 07:37 PM
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36. This video fits perfectly. Just substitute 'Banks' for 'Britney.' Yup, just the same:
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 03:20 PM
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130. +1
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 06:25 PM
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29. They want our government to be a FOR PROFIT institution.
The word 'service' is not in their vocabulary.
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 06:34 PM
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30. Is Joe ( hey Chris, hey Chris, hey Chris ) Walsh losing it? nt
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Marnie Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 06:37 PM
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32. Any questions about why he was divorced?
Somebody start digging,cause somewhere there are some women and or children that this guy has physically abused.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 07:02 PM
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34. interesting ... media (and DU) attack John Kerry for not stopping a person shouting
"Don't taze me, bro!" from being tazed and dragged out of the room.

Joe Walsh threatens to get someone thrown out of his meeting ...

um ... reaction???
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 12:02 AM
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70. Tough break- no one's going for the bait. Keep repeating it again down the line- see if that works
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 09:46 AM
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99. Not the same thing at all. What's the point are you trying to make?
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digonswine Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 07:29 PM
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35. It's government's fault that they made it so easy-
through their regulations to loan to those w/o means. Thus-we need less regulation so banks can be free to loan as they will. With less regulation, they will not be forced to loan to those who can't afford it. Frickin' gubment telling banks what to to do! Nothing these clowns say makes sense. I do not believe that they believe their own nonsense. God, I hate these liars. This species sucks.
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 06:01 AM
Response to Reply #35
80. hmm...
"This species sucks."

It IS getting harder each and every day to avoid becoming a misanthrope...
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 07:50 PM
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37. actually any fair reading of the facts
indicates that the "private marketplace" did this, has done it countless times before, and will do it again if left unregulated. This is why people invent regulations.

People did not then and in fact never have invented regulations to prevent something that is only theoretically possible, but has never happened. People invent regulations to prevent a bad thing which as happened from happening again. Further, they generally don't do it the first time something bad happens but after getting burned 2 or 3 or even countless times.

Our forebearers did not come up with this stuff on a whim.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 07:56 PM
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38. Asking Americans to quit talking or asking questions is like asking for the moon. Never happen.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 07:57 PM
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40. Tammy Duckworth for Congress! Woo and Hoo!!
http://www.tammyduckworth.com/

She's gonna kick joe's ass.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 08:48 PM
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42. Hey Walsh, guess what...
I'm blaming banks. :hide:
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 08:48 PM
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43. I hate arrogance.
He is a perfect example. わたしはごまをきらう。
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 08:50 PM
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44. Wait...somebody is blaming the true problems and joe is going la, la, la.
Really?
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HomerRamone Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 08:51 PM
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45. Life's been good to him so far nt
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:03 PM
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46. He's pissed off because the government wanted everybody in homes??
Edited on Tue Nov-08-11 09:03 PM by kestrel91316
Does he not realize how he sounds? What would the alternative be? That people be ON THE FRICKIN' STREET????

I get it, Joe. You are totally cool with many people being utterly homeless. Thanks for the soundbite. It will come in handy at election time.
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Huey P. Long Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:09 PM
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47. This corporatist SOB needs a little Mic CHECK!
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theaocp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:12 PM
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48. The guy admitted that regulatory agencies aren't doing their job, so
either get more regulations, or, I don't know ... help enable the government to follow the current regulations you say aren't being enforced? Gawd, what a douche.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:14 PM
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49. Ownership society
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ownership_society

History

The term appears to have been used originally by President Bush (for example in a speech February 20, 2003 in Kennesaw, Georgia) as a phrase to rally support for his tax-cut proposals (Pittsburgh Post - Gazette, Bush OKs Funding Bill for Fiscal '03, Feb 21, 2003 Scott Lindlaw). From 2004 Bush supporters described the ownership society in much broader and more ambitious terms, including specific policy proposals concerning home ownership, medicine, education and savings.

The idea that the welfare of individuals is directly related to their ability to control their own lives and wealth, rather than relying on government transfer payments, is a longstanding one, particularly in British conservatism.

In a modern form its implementation was developed as a main plank of Thatcherism, and is traced back to David Howell, before 1970, with help from the phrase-maker Peter Drucker.

In political practice under Margaret Thatcher's administration, it was implemented by measures such as the sale at affordable prices of public housing to tenants (right to buy program), and privatization.


...

and it gets better

Ownership and control

As formulated by the Cato Institute (see original quote and external link below), the goals are that
patients have control of their personal health care,
parents control their children's education, and
workers control their retirement savings.

Here the comments in brackets are an interpretation or paraphrase, consistent with a generalised idea of ownership. The conceptual link here is by means of the idea that private property, the most familiar and everyday form of ownership, is being extended. Control is closely associated with ownership in that sense.

This Cato Institute formulation is not, however, in terms of positive policies. It is more accurately a definition of ownership by taking the state out of the loop. So, for example, in health care ownership is not being defined just on the basis of informed consent.

There is no real originality, politically speaking, in the connection made between individual ownership of property and political stake-holding. This was an idea discussed in Europe and America in the eighteenth century. (For example that the franchise should only be for property holders.)

The novelty of the Cato Institute formulation would lie in the extrapolation. In the case of savings, for example, the extension would be an assertion of property rights in money held in savings or collected tax revenues.

The first desiderata was part of John McCain's campaign platform as the 2008 Republican presidential nominee. McCain's website says, "John McCain believes the key to health care reform is to restore control to the patients themselves.


so, it appears that this Walsh POS is attacking the "ownership" society created by his own ilk - now can he just go crawl back into his mama's basement?
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:32 PM
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50. Can you say "projection," boys and girls?
WALSH: Thats not the problem! The problem is you’ve got to be consistent. And I dont want government meddling in the marketplace. Yeah, they move from Goldman Sachs to the White House, I understand all of that. But you gotta’ be consistent. And it’s not the private marketplace that created this mess. What created mess was your government, which has demanded for years that everybody be in a home. And we’ve made it easy as possible for people to be in homes. Don’t blame banks, and don’t blame the marketplace for the mess we’re in right now! I am tired of hearing that crap! This pisses me off! Too many people don’t listen.

(snip)
CONSTITUENT2: Joe, what did I say–

WALSH: Quiet for a minute or I’m going to ask you to leave. You need to listen, or I’m going to ask you to leave.


:eyes:

Rep. Joe Walsh (R-IL) is not exactly known for his erudition, but this bit really breaks the Stupidity-O-Meter:

What created mess was your government, which has demanded for years that everybody be in a home.

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:54 PM
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51. This POS Walsh is a Nominee of the GOPers HALL OF SHAME
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:20 PM
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60. That is a very very long list
seriously!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 03:27 AM
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75. Yup....Series ..... LOL :o)
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gtar100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:22 PM
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53. Walsh is a perfect specimen of what's wrong with the US.
Self-inflated sense of importance and privilege, arrogant and too short-sighted to realize what an asshole he really is.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:22 PM
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54. Love the way she seemed to be biting her lip to keep
from calling him a liar everytime he tried to debate her. You could tell she was thinking, geez, more of the same ole bull-shit...Gurnee is pretty much retail workers, IT workers and some from the Navy Base. There are a lot of union factory workers there too. I can't tell which bar it is, it's been a while since I've been there. There's a pub off Delaney, I think called Murphy's...it's the type of place he'd go to I think.
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:22 PM
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55. The man is a piece of shit and that ends the argument.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:01 PM
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58. kr
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:20 PM
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59. I'm guessing Joe Walsh will be looking for a new job come Jan 2013
and there is a great deal of buyers remorse in his district
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:35 PM
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66. Yes. He is going to get smashed at the polls.
Maybe his defense of banks is his job interview for what he will be doing with he gets his ass kicked at the polls.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:22 PM
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61. Tired of hearing YOUR crap, Congressman Deadbeat Dad!
Enjoy your short stay on Capitol Hill.
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LetTimmySmoke Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:23 PM
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62. The right-wing in general is melting down.
They royally screwed up 2011.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:23 PM
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63. No, that's not screaming. Just watched the video. That's not screaming.
Screaming is "top of the lungs can't go any louder". This was heated and uncalled-for, but trust me, I grew up with screaming and shrieking and top of the lungs...this doesn't come close. Not at all, not by a long shot. Perhaps it's outside what "normal" people are oft exposed to, and for that I'd envy them.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:27 PM
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64. LEAVE THE BANKS ALONE!!!1!!!11!!
Edited on Tue Nov-08-11 11:28 PM by kestrel91316
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc

I wish I knew how to replace the sound on this with Joe's rant.

:rofl:
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BlueToTheBone Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:29 PM
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65. I hope his constituents were paying attention.
He needs to be a one term congressman and 2012 can't come soon enough!
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tosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 07:53 AM
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83. Welcome to DU!
:hi:
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BlueToTheBone Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 08:57 AM
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136. Thanks Tosh!
I just got my star so now I can see what you are saying!:hi:
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:40 PM
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67. So, Walsh thinks govt trying to help people is a problem. And THEN...
... he succinctly supports the case of Occupy Wall Street: Private enterprise used the power of markets to take a non-volatile situation (broader-based home ownership) and turn it into a catastrophic economic meltdown.

Thanks, Joe. :hi:

==============================
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:53 PM
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68. so it's that commie fdr and his damn gi bill that caused this mess?
:eyes:
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:57 PM
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69. "I'm going to ask you to leave"... the bar?
I think I'd tell him to stop trying to dictate how this small business owner runs his shop. :)
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 01:10 AM
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71. I get it Joe. The market is above justice, above ethics, above morality

It has god-like powers and we can't interfere with its unerring sense of justice. So, to fix government, we have to let the market interfere in it. Bring some market wisdom to it in the form of lobbyists, unlimited, unaccountable campaign funds, corrupted Congressmen and regulators; and also privatized police, prisons and armed forces. Then we can't and really won't have to interfere in government either because that would be confounding the perfection the perfection of the market. And really, if the market is so great, why shouldn't it be in charge of everything? Government, scientists take bids to make studies and slant the results to the highest bidder, education . . . oops I forgot we're already doing that last one.

Very consistent, Joe. Consistently stupid. Consistently superstitious. Why don't you entrust the wisdom of sheep entrails instead? Or on the perfection of the flip of your favorite coin. Sheesh.

Although, now his hysteria and authoritarian personality should piss off right wingers.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 02:57 AM
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74. He is going to hear that "crap" because it is true.
And Obama is going to hear it too.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 03:35 AM
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76. LOLOL
OMG - they're getting hysterical because no one is buying their lies except idiot teabaggers :rofl:
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 04:37 AM
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77. cognitive dissonance
he's a nut
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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 06:56 AM
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81. The entire right wing
in America has been reduced to shrill talking points, threats and mass hysterics. If they aren't careful they will no longer be able to sucker enough rubes, suppress enough votes, rig enough elections or buy enough air time to continue looting the country.
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Mosaic Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 01:50 PM
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120. You are Exactly Right
Edited on Wed Nov-09-11 01:50 PM by Mosaic
Their days are counted.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 06:56 AM
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82. Jeez, what a jerk.
The standards of the republican church are so low! They'll settle for anybody.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 07:57 AM
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84.  "But what enabled the banking industry to do that?" YOU DID JOE! You did!
What an asshole.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 08:37 AM
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88. Doesn't want government "meddling in the marketplace", but ...
... having the market meddling in government is apparently just fine, right Joe?


:wtf:
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 08:38 AM
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89. I can see why he's divorced
I recognize that body language and overbearing attitude. I wouldn't be surprised if he was an abusive husband. He sure likes touching people and sticking his finger in their faces.

He isn't going to be in Washington for long. He seems to forget that he works for the people he keeps yelling at.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 08:49 AM
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90. joe will be gone the next term. Someone needs to show how much joe got from the banks for his run
me thinks he protests too much.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 08:49 AM
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91. " And I dont want government meddling in the marketplace.' ROFL!!!
I think that is the biggest fucking Republican lie of them all.
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onlyadream Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 09:01 AM
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92. No video?
What's the deal? It says the video is private???
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 09:42 AM
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98. Here is a link to the full video:
Edited on Wed Nov-09-11 09:44 AM by cui bono
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ct-76UB98s

"The relevant exchange begins at 8:20." per ThinkProgress.

It's not showing up as private to me.


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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 09:15 AM
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93. He makes a good point, but at the expensive of addressing the current problem.
I noticed long ago that conservatives are great at pointing things out, but are the last to acknowledge problems and the last to offer solutions. In fact, they are more likely to make the problem bigger before trying to fix it.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 09:16 AM
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94. Shut up Joe Walsh and pay the child support you owe.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 09:26 AM
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95. How long can this "gov't is the problem" line work for them?
Their constituents don't buy it any more.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 09:34 AM
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96. This, citizens, is what the GOP thinks of you. They think you're fucking stupid.
THEY ALL DO.

This is THEIR planet, not YOURS.

Insane bullshit makes sense in their world, because they're not affected by the insane bullshit they peddle?

Financial bets aren't made with THEIR money, they're made with YOURS.

"Don't blame banks" . . . let me tell you something, JOEY, pederasta bitch motherfucker . . .YOU aren't allowed to yell at people who EMPLOY your dumb ass. NO one is buying the bullshit anymore!

THE WEALTHY CAUSED THIS. THEY CAUSED ALL OF IT. When I say "Wealthy" I also mean their plants in the government from both parties. ALL OF IT!!!

KEEP a civil tongue, asshole. I'M your boss. I AM!!

GOD bless America. Who the FUCK do these people think they are? THE GALL.
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 09:49 AM
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100. Really, how can these anti-government people get "elected"
by their constituents? I have never seen an anti-corporate CEO.

How can any rational person believe that "market forces" (there is no "free market") can police corporations better than government regulators that are not bank affiliated? Capitalism has replaced Democracy and it is our duty to stop it.

Socialism works great for big business (socialize losses and privatize profits) but is destructive for average people? We must take greed out of the paradigm. Go OWS!
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 09:51 AM
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101. Fascist pansy
Reminds me of the senator in 'Shooter' played by Ned Beatty

"the truth is what I say it is"
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:45 AM
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102. What's with the "I'm going to have to ask you to leave unless...?"
Does Walsh own the tavern he's making a fool of himself in? Or is this a town hall meeting of sorts where he makes the ground rules for participation as he goes along on his tirade? Interesting how this jerk attempts to intimidate a woman who had her facts straight. He gets in her face but she held her ground well. That must have really bothered Joe
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:01 AM
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103. K&R
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:12 AM
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104. The gop is definitely imploding. About time.
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lsewpershad Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:22 AM
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105. This clown is
either stupid or totally bought. Banks and large corporations totally screwed this county. Was this clown suggesting that it is wrong to want every American have a home? What a prick.
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Beavker Donating Member (784 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:23 AM
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106. What created the mess was your government, which has demanded for years that everybody be in a home.
Edited on Wed Nov-09-11 11:24 AM by Beavker
Well, it's not true, they opened the door for predators like GS, but if he wants to stick with that meme, then I suppose he'd be all for regulating the piss out of the Mortgage industry? I'm guessing if the Government closed that door, he'd be 'pissed off' about that too.

It's the new thing...Bloomberg said it too. The government made Wall Street take lousy loans and package them into AAA rated products that were destined to fail, then sold 'insurance' against those failures. Uh huh.

Is he a sociopath or stupid? It's hard to tell sometimes.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:35 AM
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107. Why is he still walking around free?
If *I* owed $100,000 in child support, I would be sitting in a cage, wearing a bright orange "pumpkin suit" until I agreed to a payment schedule.
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FlyByNight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:45 AM
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108. Which only means he has to hear it even more...
...at greater volume. And he didn't answer the question - oddly enough.

Have you paid your child support yet, Joe?

Fucking jerk.

:puke:
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Abonides Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:53 AM
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109. bye bye joe
I hope they take the child support out of Walsh's retirement plan.
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:55 AM
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110. Expect a lot more meltdowns as they realize their lies aren't working anymore.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 12:28 PM
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111. How did he get into Congress to begin with??
Don't blame the marketplace??
What's up with that?
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 01:42 PM
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118. He worked at a conservative think tank called "The Heartland Instiute"
Beyond that, I don't know except he seemed to come in from

nowhere waving the Tea Pary Flag.....He beat the blue-dog Democrat

incumbent by LESS than 300 votes...I know, 'cause I was working

the phone bank the night he won...It was a HUGE surprise.

Melissa Bean and her supporters never really took him seriously

ant that was a big mistake on our part....He IS an asshat,

and I take satisfaction in this little meetup 'cause I've been

to his others and he NEVER loses his cool, so I know this indicates

he's desperate 'cause that repuke bag of shit ain't selling anymore!

a
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 12:41 PM
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112. poor old joe.nobody loves him but his mother but....
she could be jive`n too......
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 12:45 PM
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113. Doesn't that revolving
lobbist writing legislation/congressional staff revolving door insure consistency?

Isn't walsh a '10 elected rep? He needs to do some homework. It was pretzeldent that wanted the 'ownership' nation as I recall. Had to keep inflating that housing bubble somehow.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 12:45 PM
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114. Typical reich winger
When they get cornered, they lash out like little babies.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 01:52 PM
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121. This just in:
Deadbeat Douchebag Describes Dumbass Dickery
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Fantastic Anarchist Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 01:55 PM
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122. People like Walsh say they're libertarians ...
... until someone asks them uncomfortable questions. Then they become quite authoritarian and ask people to leave.

He's anything but "consistent."

Fucking asswipe.
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Mosaic Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 01:58 PM
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125. If he dared to talk to me that way
He would have left with two black eyes. :grr: :grr: :grr:
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Jim_Shorts Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 02:08 PM
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126. OOPS...Joe just showed his "real" self in public
Damn those little camera's.
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aggiesal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 03:05 PM
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127. If it's not the Banks ...
and it's your government, isn't he part of our government?

This is like Sen. Al Franken used to say
"The GOP keeps screaming how bad the Government is.
Then get elected and prove their point."
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 03:13 PM
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129. If that were me who had asked the question i would have yelled
something real classy like "you can't talk that way to me!"
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 03:21 PM
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131. Does he think shilling for banks is sexy? Is he bragging about it? nt
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ctsnowman Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 03:41 PM
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132. It's all about the free market you see
If you buy baby food and it kills your baby then just don't buy that brand anymore and that company will go out of business. Winner take all baby.
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Marnie Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 04:41 PM
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134. Wonder how many voters who heard him he won over?
Or the family and friends they will tell all about how he acted and talked.
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