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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:32 AM
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Elizabeth Warren is a rock star, but we need more than rock stars to turn things around
http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/318-66/8488-focus-heaven-is-a-place-called-elizabeth-warren

Among other things, what Warren offers is a reasonable, expert face for the free-floating anger currently on display at Occupy Wall Street and elsewhere. She can get wonky about the economy when she wants to, but what sets her apart is her ability to tell a coherent, populist story about it in a way that other members of her party are either unwilling or unable to do.

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The question of what it would take for Warren to maneuver through the Senate is particularly prickly given that Warren's aims sound as outsize, and perhaps as naïve, as the expectations of her followers.

"I don't want to go to Washington to be a co-sponsor of some bland, little bill nobody cares about," she told me. "I don't want to go to Washington to get my name on something that makes small change at the margin." Responding to my suggestion that she must run a grass-roots campaign in part because she won't have support from banks, Warren said: "That's absolutely true if you think the objective is to win. For me, it's about more than that."

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How to sell hope when so many feel hopeless is Warren's biggest messaging challenge. Her supporters may be willing to forget the past four years and renew their faith in her as their next salvation, but Warren clearly thinks about the dissonance of what happened when the last change-peddlers hit Washington.

"I thought, 2008, that's it, that is the watershed moment," Warren says. "We put sensible people in the House, in the Senate and in the White House." But even with the new leadership, Warren said, "the people who broke the market doubled down on the failed policies. This was not supposed to happen. But it did happen."

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But many of the people looking to Warren, as they did to Obama before her, are expecting material things - like readable credit-card pitches or safe bridges or jobs or a vote on a bill to create jobs - that are, at the moment, figments as imaginative as dragons and their slayers. And that's dangerous, because when the person we decided was going to fix it all isn't able to change much, it's not just that we get blue but also that we give up. We mistake the errors of our own overblown estimations for broken promises. And instead of learning, reasonably, that one person can't do everything, we persuade ourselves that no person can do anything.

The key is not just emotional investment in election-year saviors but also an engagement with policy. A commitment to organized expressions of political desire - like those that have been harnessed so effectively in recent years on the right - have been absent for far too long in Democratic politics. Now, with labor protests, campaigns to block voter suppression and personhood measures and the occupations of cities around the nation, there seem to be some small signs that liberals are remembering that politics requires more of them, that they need movements, not just messiahs. But their engagement must deepen, broaden and persist beyond last week's elections and well beyond next year's elections if there is any chance for politicians like Warren to succeed.

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:39 AM
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1. I don't think she is a rock star. I think what makes her great is that she is FOR REAL.
Rock stars are manufactured, with lots of bells and whistles and costumes, lighting and fireworks to fluff up the performance.

She's more like a classical guitarist--she can stand alone on a stage without a supporting band, and pick out a tune that is both complex and straightforward.

I think she's a Wellstone. We need more of those in the Senate, and we need to elect them, one by one if that's the only way we can manage it, or in nice clumps if we can find good candidates.

I'm voting for her. I'll do what I can to see her elected.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:42 AM
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3. I mean that she is attracting adulation, not that adulation is being manufactured
Hoping that lots of the people attracted to her candidacy will STAY involved for the long term.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:50 AM
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5. I think she should be adored like say, Segovia!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyPvr8AKVJQ

Once you hear him, your standards are raised.
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PETRUS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:46 AM
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4. Nice analogy.
(I'm a classical guitarist.)

I do like the point the article makes about citizenship and involvement outside the voting booth.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:04 AM
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7. Me, too. You can't just vote and say you did your part.
Of course, voting is a start--so many don't even bother. That's why a lot of politicians think they can get away with so much shit, because no one is paying attention.
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:41 AM
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2. Authoritarian personality cultists
Always looking for a leader to save them. Never willing to step up and be a leader.

Occupy is full of leaders, though. :) I'm placing my bets on Occupy.

Which I haven't clicked on the link and read the full thing, honestly because I'm bored by focus on celebrity personalities, but I don't see any mention of Occupy being the movement that the author claims is needed. I also see the claim of Occupy needing a "reasonable, expert face" as belittling Occupy and trying to make it fit into an authoritarian business as usual status quo frame of thought.

Saw a tweet tonight from someone else who's seen the same thing that I have. It turns out the real political division in the US is not so much between left and right as it is between authoritarian and libertarian.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 05:01 AM
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8. Occupy is a movement independent of electoral politics, and it should stay that way
That does not mean that people who are serious about change should blow off electoral politics, though.
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JFN1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:57 AM
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6. I think we should just stick to people - no stars at all.
After all, stars are gigantic gas balls giving off lethal radiation, and they can explode in titanic fury at any given moment...! :P
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:00 AM
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12. Stars only explode when they get so big they collapse of their own weight..
Truly.
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:evilgrin:
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:28 AM
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9. Yes. OWS is changing the mindset of America so she will be able to effect change.
Up to now all the discussions were about the validity of conservative proposals.
It must change to discussing the validity of liberal proposals.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:41 AM
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10. No more 'rock stars'.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:52 AM
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11. She's NOT a rock star. She's a smart person who's not afraid to tell the truth.
And she is not "in it" for herself.

She means to do good for the people. ALL the people.

And YES, we DO need more of her.

I hope the Democrats don's assimilate her.

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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:38 PM
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18. I'm not talking about her--just how some people are reacting to her
--like they reacted to Obama four years ago. She is clearly not a self-booster in any sense.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:14 AM
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13. Elizabeth is the LAST person I'd classify as a rock star
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:36 PM
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14. When she runs for President, I'll campaign and vote for her with
enthusiasm and hope. nt
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:42 PM
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15. I think she will be our first woman President
I truly believe that.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:51 PM
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16. That's good too. But, the main thing is that she has a brilliant mind,
an abundance of courage and she fights for the underdogs. She will probably win the Senate seat and then be poised to run for President in 2016. nt
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 06:10 PM
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21. Yes she is smart as a whip and tough as a nail
and she belongs to us, err I mean she is on our side, us being the 99%'ers

Even though she's not been a resident of my state for a while I still see her as an okie, not that that matters other than me taking pride in that. The main thing is she is an American first and thats what we all should be.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 07:48 PM
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22. This Country needs her and more like her in politics, education
and business. nt
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:35 PM
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17. disappointment with Obama isn't because he failed to live up to some "overblown expectations"
but because he actively and passively pushed and endorsed Bushite policies
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:40 PM
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20. The most important failing is Obama's lack of values-based messages
Warren is explicitly defending PUBLIC GOODS as a basic value. Obama has never done that, and in fact has denigrated government's role in promoting employment.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:38 PM
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19. Your thread title sounds just like the punch line in a Rick Perry ad
that has been shown in Iowa for the past 2 weeks.
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