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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 11:09 PM
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OWS is so new. There is no rush to come up with a list of demands.
Edited on Wed Nov-23-11 11:18 PM by applegrove
When you start writing all your multiple realities down on paper, done by concensus even, you flatten those realities down from 3D ones. I would warn the OWS not to try and capture the views yet. Let people connect to the mulititude of 3D ideas a little while longer. It has only been two months since OWS was started. People need time to dream and bubble. Think how great the OWS truths would be if people had a year to be 3D creative.
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redgiant Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 11:20 PM
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1. Should we tell them right from the get go...
...that the ultimate goal is the complete overthrow of the capitalist system?
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 11:27 PM
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2. Some people want that. Many do not. For me personally I was touched by the sign "I don't mind that
you are rich; I mind that you are buying my government". We are all little people with ideas and dreams. We need a government that fulfills all of our basic needs. Not just those of socialists or capitalists.
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riverbendviewgal Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 11:42 PM
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6. I agree
It is not bad to be rich but bad to want it all without paying your share. Time to get back to the time when the super rich were taxed with the same rates as in Ike's term.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 11:50 PM
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7. I wouldn't go even that far. We can not agree but can be together because we are all the OWS
Edited on Wed Nov-23-11 11:51 PM by applegrove
and for now we all have the power to state our truth, our say, and our ideas, in a way elections in the USA in the last 30 years have not let people.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 11:29 PM
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3. Call me when any general assembly reaches consensus on that one
All red baiting aside...

Hey fox is a step ahead already...OWS are unamerican terrorists!!!!!!
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 11:34 PM
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5. You are so right. I think with multiple realities in my brain. And it is 3D ideas that
Edited on Wed Nov-23-11 11:40 PM by applegrove
percolate up. OWS is like a big brain someone on here once said. And it is so true. The creativity of OWS is their biggest strength. Let them 'think'.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 11:57 PM
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8. It mightn't matter to Liberals and DU, but to the average open minded American it does.
Far too many otherwise politically disengaged Americans will be dismissive of OWS if it cannot come up if it cannot come up with a short list of succinct demands. These people do not understand and it will not help OWS if they remain ignorant about exactly what the movement is about.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 01:13 AM
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9. They already have
I know Medicare for all is way too non-concrete. And that is but an example. This they lack ideas or clarity is not even a RW media narrative, but a media narrative.

I will let you try to connect dots as to why is that.
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