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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 09:04 PM
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How is this indecent exposure?
Edited on Thu Dec-16-10 09:04 PM by Liberal_in_LA
seems like he was just trying to do some harmless ritual. No one there. He had no intention of being seen. Charge seems harsh.


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Security camera snaps naked man in Miss. cemetery

Associated Press December 13, 2010 12:12 PM

A man caught naked in a south Mississippi church cemetery says he was trying to take photographs of spirits. Robert Hurst told The Picayune Item newspaper that he shed his clothes because he believes skin is the best canvas to show spirits' orbs of energy.

The 47-year-old said he only intended to remove his shirt, but he took off all his clothes — a move he now calls "stupid."

Authorities had set up a motion-activated camera to try to catch vandals. Shane Tucker, the chief deputy in Pearl River County, said Hurst was not accused of vandalism, but the camera caught an unexpected image of Hurst naked.

Hurst faces a misdemeanor charge of indecent exposure. He posted $500 bond after turning himself in Friday.


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/12/13/national/a120632S93.DTL#ixzz18KY8pLeM
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 09:06 PM
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1. So because a church is employing surveillance...
it's "indecent exposure" when a guy does some goofy... thing?
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Riftaxe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 10:41 PM
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16. I think it has more with his stripping buck naked
in a public place. Pretty sure the statute does not address goofy, but if you have any more need for the obvious being pointed out to you, please PM me.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 09:06 PM
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2. uh, who are these benighted authorities accusing him of exposing himself *to?*
:shrug:
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 09:12 PM
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4. the spirits he was trying to photograph? maybe???
Hey, ya know that the second coming is at hand don't ya? The dead could be risen from their graves at any moment. How would you like to come back to life and be greeted with some guy's junk hanging out?




:sarcasm:
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Riftaxe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 10:42 PM
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17. Perhaps the people who have to review the surveillance
tapes?
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 09:09 PM
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3. I tend to agree, but.....
you do need to draw a line somewhere. He could have worn a pair of shorts and it would have all been fine.


With any luck he will receive a very light fine and maybe some probation for punishment.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 09:13 PM
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5. Only those completely unfamiliar with the criminal element believe this dude.
Seriously.

I've defended more jackasses than I want to count who somehow end up naked in cemeteries, taking pictures.

No, really.

You really don't want to think about these cases too hard.

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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 09:15 PM
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8. Jebus, maybe you should consider another line of work! n/t
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 10:38 PM
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15. Posts are like this are why you're one of my favourite DU'ers...
Seriously. :toast:

Sid
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 10:49 PM
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19. Thank you...I think, right?
I'm drinking some serious gin tonight....
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 12:11 AM
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33. Well, then...you're forgiven.
:rofl:

No, seriously, I enjoyed going back & forth with you. :)
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 09:13 PM
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6. No Shirt.... No Shoes... No Spirits
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Riftaxe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 11:05 PM
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26. +1 Although it would not be the first time
spirits have led to no shoes and no shirt...especially the high proof stuff :)
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 09:14 PM
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7. Sounds like Pearl River County is in dire need of a nightclub or a casino.
People really ought to have better things to do with their time than fuck around at a cemetery.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 09:17 PM
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9. I thought that in misdemeanor, the cops were allowed to exercise . . .
I don't know . . . discretion? Judgment?

I guess not. The "spirits" must have made them charge this guy.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 09:18 PM
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10. The video could help him show that there was no one else in the cemetary who would have
seen him expose himself. Unless there were signs posted in regard to video surveillance, the fact that he was seen on tape in his birthday suit should be regarded as nothing more than a WTH, humorous moment if no one else was present in the cemetary.
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Riftaxe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 11:30 PM
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27. So presumably people who review video tapes
Edited on Thu Dec-16-10 11:30 PM by Riftaxe
are what in your opinion, 3/5ths of a human being? Is it what they do to earn a paycheck that makes them subhuman, or just all lower paid people?
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 11:51 PM
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30. People who get paid to review surveillance videos must surely be prepared to see
weird stuff.

Quite a gift for spin you've got there. :crazy:
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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 12:02 AM
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31. The criminal act of indecent exposure would require him to know he had an audience.
If the cameras were hidden and no one else was around, there would be no criminal intent.

Perhaps the camera attendants have a civil case where the burden of proof is much easier to meet.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 09:43 PM
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11. Does no one here defending this jerk ken that he is a necrophiliac?????
Edited on Thu Dec-16-10 09:46 PM by msanthrope
Seriously, people----

they charged indecent exposure to both save this asswipe some embarrassment, and because they don't want the witnesses to have to testify that they saw this creep yanking one out over the gravestones....

People, please.

You don't put up cameras in a cemetery for 'vandalism.'

You put them up because someone's jerking off over the gravestones...and people are finding the evidence.

Trust me on this.....
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 10:20 PM
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12. Maybe I'm wrong, but...
doesn't necrophilia involve actual sex with actual dead people?


As opposed to merely whacking the weasel over the gravestones, I mean...

and even that, as sick as it looks, probably might not be vandalism if nothing gets destroyed, right? Disrespectful, but not really any damage done...



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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 10:33 PM
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13. No.
Edited on Thu Dec-16-10 10:39 PM by msanthrope
The disorder involves a whole host of behaviors that involve the dead. It escalates.

No damage done?

Imagine going to lay flowers at your kid's grave and finding, well, fluids?

Trust me. Damage is done.






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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 10:54 PM
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22. Well, I've looked it up and...
all I can find is that it specifically involves sex with a corpse.


But as far as the rest of this goes, you are accusing him of doing something nobody has proof of.

The article doesn't say he was caught masturbating on gravestones. He was caught removing his clothing. That's it. Why assume he's a necrophiliac just because he removed his clothing in a cemetery?

If someone removes his clothing in some strange ritual in a department store, does that mean he's into sex with mannequins? Or camping equipment?

If someone removes his clothing in a barn, that means he's into bestiality?

I don't think it's fair to jump to a conclusion here, especially without a shred of proof as to what his intentions were.







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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 10:38 PM
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14. "You people..."
:rofl:

No, seriously, if the man were doing what you think he had been doing, I think the police report would have described just that.

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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 10:47 PM
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18. Nope--
'cause then the locals in So. Miss. would have wanted to know which grave he was yanking it out over....

The police report gives the asswipe some cover, the witnesses some cover, and keeps actual people out of it.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 10:58 PM
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24. I knew it...
It's all this huge government plot to protect cemetery wankers...


:tinfoilhat:
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 11:47 PM
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29. Police report what the facts are & allow the chips to fall where they may.
It would defend their course of action if there ever were a complaint against them in the future by anyone involved in the incident.
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 12:09 AM
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32. That is the most naive thing I've read all day.
n/t
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 12:17 AM
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34. Yes, I went back & forth on that "report the facts" thingy, but then I realized
Edited on Fri Dec-17-10 12:19 AM by pacalo
cops will stick out their necks to cover up something only if it involves bribes or their own crimes.

"Gravely exposure" in a cemetary would be small potatoes, so "report the facts" it is.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 10:55 PM
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23. The usual tool of a necrophiliac is a shovel
I don't think wanking over a gravestone is a satisfactory substitute...
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 11:00 PM
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25. Well hell...
Maybe the guy thought digging up the dead body was too much work and he was hoping to lure ghosties and spirits for his wanking pleasure....


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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 11:35 PM
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28. That's a possibility
But necrophiliacs are usually a "hands on" bunch. That's why it's a felony in most places.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 02:57 PM
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35. ewwwww!
:puke:
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 10:50 PM
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20. He's photographing spirits. Indecent exposure is the least of my worries.
I doubt naked cemetery frolics are frequent enough to warrant much concern.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 10:52 PM
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21. I usually keep my "orbs of energy" covered
You never know when they need protection from the cold.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 02:58 PM
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36. lol n/t
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