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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:19 AM
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Overheard at work yesterday
Mind you these are two guys who are addicted to RW radio talk and FAUX News.

One tea-bagger co-worker to another tea-bagger co-worker"

Matt - "How's it going today Doug?"
Doug - grumble grumble (inaudible)
Matt - "Well if it makes you feel any better that tax relief deal, or whatever you call it, went through"
Doug - grumble grumble (pissed off that unemployment went through also)

Now here is the "kicker(s)";
These guys work in the public works sector for a local municipality.
Their pension plan is under attack, the very existence of their tax funded job is under attack.
I have even had one of them ask me if letting the tax rate reductions for the wealthy expire wasn't some sort of "communism".

So here you have an example of a total and complete brainwashing. People unable or unwilling to grasp the personal impact their ideology can have on their very own lives.
Defending less tax revenue and "smaller government" while failing to realize they depend on their government jobs for a half-way survivable existence.
Defending the wealthy and "trickle-down"/supply side economics even if it means their own careers and pensions get cut or worse.

I have engaged with these guys but found there is no point.
Now I keep it to short and barbed comments if they dare throw this shit my way. They don't.
They know I will question them.
Cowards.


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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:29 AM
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1. The dumbing down of America is nearly complete.
You really gotta stand back and be impressed by how well it worked - if you can put aside for a moment just how pathetically sad it is.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:31 AM
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2. No Child Left with a Mind
Critical thinking is no longer part of education -- the next generation will be even stupider.
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LiberalArkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:38 AM
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6. I always thought Idiocracy was prophetic
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:41 AM
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8. The movie "Idiocracy" is not too far off


Pvt. Joe Bowers: ... And there was a time in this country, a long time ago, when reading wasn't just for fags and neither was writing. People wrote books and movies, movies that had stories so you cared whose ass it was and why it was farting, and I believe that time can come again!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/quotes
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:37 AM
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5. It is impressive

Getting people like this to defend the wealthy interests.
As if the wealthy elitists are somehow benevolent father figures just waiting to hand out good jobs and "manna from heaven" if we just lower tax rates on them.
Placing the filthy rich in a place of reverence as if these pee-ons will somehow "get there" also.

Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels is smiling in his grave.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 09:01 AM
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11. the thing with that is.... we have seen it's effects. we had eight years of these tax cuts
and the deficit has ballooned and the jobs are all going away. so a reasonable person can make the correlation that tax cuts does not equal more jobs. it has been proven. but the very fact that people can't seem to make that connection just makes a person have to either laugh or cry....
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:32 AM
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3. The notion that tax cuts create jobs has become an article of faith.
We know it's not true; the economists know it's not true; the cynical politicians know it's not true. But since nobody really likes to pay taxes --although at least some of us recognize that taxes are the price of civilization-- it's a great political ploy. Ever since the Reagan years we've been brainwashed to believe that tax cuts are always good for the economy, and big tax cuts for the wealthy are especially good because those rich people will use that money to build businesses and hire people. Except that they don't. And you can show people all the charts and graphs and economic analyses you want, all day, and they won't believe you because "everybody knows" tax cuts create jobs. You might as well try to convince a fundie that evolution is true.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 09:04 AM
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13. they created jobs.... just not here. they are all in india and pakistan
and china. so when these jerks who think this is so great end up unemployed and start whining about where are all their jobs.... you can tell them to go over to china.... that's where they are thanks to all those tax cuts for the rich.
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:33 AM
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4. This is the biggest mystery to me, how people can't make the simple connection
to their own lives, even in an obvious situation like this one. The brainwashing process is complete.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:38 AM
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7. Yes. public sector employees voting against their own
Edited on Fri Dec-17-10 08:39 AM by mmonk
interests is out there just like the elderly voting to end social security. It's as if this country has had a lobotomy.
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Denninmi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:51 AM
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9. Well, I always say ...
I's sure they'll sleep peacefully in the homeless shelter some day, knowing that, by God, those gays can't marry and then have abortions.
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:56 AM
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10. This is my father, a life long worker for the water dept. is the Parish (county).
He will cut off his nose, and gladly give it to the rich.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 09:08 AM
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14. Remind him that...

...his career is not in the private sector.

His job and all his supplies are government sponsored and owned.

He is essentially a Socialist.
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 12:52 PM
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16. I have said as much but there is a total disconnect.
He hates unions, hates taxes, etc. All the usual stuff.
The cherry topper though is how the Parish screwed him over and forced early retirement on him.
He was railroaded and STILL has these same anti-worker, anti rights views.

A lot of these R's are the same. Fucking idiots.
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bluethruandthru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 09:02 AM
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12. Fox, right wing radio, and republicans have done a stellar job.
They've convinced about 40 percent of the population that we should all be beholden to the rich because they create jobs and graciously allow us to work for them, that Sarah Palin is a viable candidate for president, that taxes are evil, that the average person knows how to handle their money and invest for their retirement better than the government, that all government is evil, that the insurance companies are concerned about their policyholder's health, and on and on and on.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 09:12 AM
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15. Trying to reason with them is like arguing with a drunk - it is pointless,
and just pisses everyone off.

The right thinks WE are stupid because we don't "understand" their "thinking"...they refer to us as "dumocrats" and "Lib-tards" when they think they are among friends.
I know several of these folks who hate ALL immigrants because "the Italians brought the Commie Unions with them" and the terribly foreign ideas that spoiled America, like universal health care (Mdeicare) and social security.

They are just stupid/crazy and delusional. And in charge of much of the government next month.


mark
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Itchinjim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 05:34 PM
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17. A couple of weeks ago the teabagger I work with made the mistake
of letting me overhear him brag to our boss about all the money he was going to make off the GM ipo stock he bought. I tore into the hypocritical SOB and haven't let the issue rest since.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 11:47 PM
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18. K&R
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