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greytdemocrat Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 07:08 PM
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Assuming Mubarak's Govt. falls...
What do you think it's going to be replaced with???

I'd wager nothing the people are going to be happy with 1 year from now.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 07:12 PM
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1. That is why most think on go not chess.
and why it is said best to help people in leadership learn, then just replace them, since there is a bench on the corrupt side. However if need be, depleting their own bench by their own actions would also work.

Also why I don't believe in purges, since those that purge are not much better. Animal farm concept.


However, I am due beer and travel money, and if millions have to destroy themselves as they keep trying to avoid paying that, it is their decision, and not something I would do. It is far simpler for that error to be corrected and the beer and travel money paid since it is due.
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greytdemocrat Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 07:20 PM
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4. Well said but...
What do you think they'll end up with?
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 08:10 AM
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18. Go is the game, alright.
And what is just is what is due, what is due just. As simple as that.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 07:14 PM
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2. That is why there has to be a calm transition.
As Obama stated, DO something about implementing human and civil rights, and have an election to vote in a new person.

It should be done as methodically as it was done for South Africa.

I.E. the Afrikaner govt was not thrown out on its ear until a fair and free election took place. But everyone knew it would be out.

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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 07:21 PM
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5. +1
I believe this is what the USA is trying to promote.

I am surprised so few people have drawn this comparison.
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greytdemocrat Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 07:25 PM
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6. Calm transition??
It doesn't look that way. At least not yet but here is hoping.

There is nothing to be gained by either the people of Egypt or
the rest of the world if extremists take power.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 09:18 PM
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7. Do you remember all the "non" calmness in SA.
I remember the 1976 riots very clearly, but had left before the 80's upheavals.

Nevertheless, South Africa had one of the calmest transitions in history.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 10:56 PM
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11. That's because South Africa had Nelson Mandela
Probably the greatest statesman since George Washington. Who in Egypt will assume that role? Who in any Arabic country being rocked by street protests would play that position in their respective lands?
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 11:03 PM
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13. That is exactly the question
Edited on Sat Jan-29-11 11:03 PM by tabatha
I posed yesterday sometime.

I think ElBaradei may fill that role for Egypt.

"We shall continue to exercise our right of peaceful demonstration and restore our freedom & dignity.Regime violence will backfire badly"
http://twitter.com/ElBaradei

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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 11:13 PM
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14. I've heard both pro and con on ElBaradei here
I tried to find out which sect of Islam he belongs to, because he seems a bit soft on Iran's nuclear program. And a Nobel Peace Prize doesn't mean jack, both Yassir Arafat and Henry Kissinger are past winners. Now they even give them out as an advance on what they expect you to do.
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 07:20 PM
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3. I'd wager.
Egypt will have real elections come next September.

If it is Theocratic or Secular-- that's not a bet I'll make or take. That is for the people of Egypt to decide.

They want to have a choice. That choice includes Theocracy/secularism -- and whatever they want for THIER country.


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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 09:22 PM
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8. US and "Western world" support dictatorship...
Theocracy...

ElBaradei...

Democratic (with a small 'd') elections run by the people...

Military control of gov't while one of the previous plays out...

Hereto unknown "leader" of the people...

Unknown...

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BOG PERSON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 09:22 PM
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9. all of a sudden you give a shit if egyptians are happy with their government??
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greytdemocrat Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 09:37 PM
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10. I was simply asking a question.
What do you think will happen?
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 10:58 PM
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12. I can see a struggle between the military and the Muslim Brotherhood
Those people who were hugging the troops were bowing towards Mecca five times a day, too. Hard to say which side they would come down on, and what difference it would make once one side got the upper hand.
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greytdemocrat Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 08:03 AM
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16. If that does happen
than I hope the military takes the reins firmly until elections or whatever can be set up.
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 11:45 PM
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15. A revolution is always accompanied by temporary chaos
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 08:07 AM
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17. An election, duh.
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greytdemocrat Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 08:23 AM
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19. Really?
It might happen. There are other scenarios...
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