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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 07:18 PM
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Remember Scott Ritter?
Like Assange, he too was accused of sex crimes just as he was going public with information the government didn't really want to be public.

Note to whistle-blowers: If someone offers you sex, be she a smoking hot Swede or a cybersex cutie, just walk away. You're about to get fucked and not in a good way.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 07:21 PM
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1. No, actually I'm extremely sexy and women find me suddenly irresistable....
I always suspected this and now I'm ***SNAP****. Oh, shit....
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:11 PM
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5. It takes two to make a thing go right
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 07:22 PM
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2. One reason I hope to never be a whistle blower
it's gotta put a cramp in one's social life
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 07:52 PM
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3. Standard operating procedure
along with drugs, weapons and explosives. You have to be a Saint to survive in that World. It used to bother me. Now I just consider it to be entertainment.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 07:54 PM
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4. Yes yes I do
and you are correct.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:11 PM
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6. so that's your advice? if you want to be a whistle blower cut your own balls off?
no wonder only a rare few "blow the whistle"

i have a better idea, let's stop discrediting whistle blowers on the basis of bullshit "sexcrime"

i have an idea, if the gov't can't find a crime they would prosecute if it were committed by joe blow, but they are using THAT crime to prosecute a ritter or an assange...maybe we should just accept that the gov't has acknowledged that the whistle blower hasn't done anything wrong and they are just reaching

give up sex, and you know what? they'll just make up a lie about you anyway...giving up sex won't save you because LIARS LIE

next question? sheesh...
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:25 PM
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7. And sometimes sex offenders really are sex offenders...nt
Sid
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:30 PM
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:40 PM
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11. Is this thread even about Obama?...
I thought it was about Ritter, Assange, and charges of sexual misconduct.

:shrug:

Sid
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:35 PM
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10. there will always be those who think any adult who has sex is a sex offender
DU and other progressive sites should be safe haven from the fascist fundy anti-sexers, instead of pretending their anti-sex/anti-pleasure views have equal (or any) validity
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:42 PM
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12. That's certainly not me...
I'm just not rushing to judgement one way or the other. My opinion is that neither of these cases is a setup. Ritter, after all, is a multiple offender, and still has a case against him working its way through the legal system.

But, that's only my opinion.

Sid
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:32 PM
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9. Yep.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:43 PM
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13. I'm pretty sure Ritter was actually guilty
He was caught in a sting once, and the police let him go. Then he was caught a little later (I think a few weeks), and was arrested. Then a few years later he was caught again.

Those were just the times he was caught propositioning 12-17 year olds for sexual encounters. I'm sure he has done it dozens of other times when he never got caught.

That isn't the same thing.

And if people percieved as opponents of US hegemony were charged with sex crimes, it never happened to Chomsky or Zinn. Or Ellsberg.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:55 PM
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18. He's still awaiting trial in Monroe County, Pennsylvania.
Fortunately, jurors are questioned before being seated.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 06:05 PM
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19. I guess
But he has a track record of this behavior, and a previous conviction. So he wasn't brought down in a fabricated sting against leftists.

Not that people don't try to catch leftist leaders up in stings (Nader and Moore have been targets before of smear campaigns), but Ritter has done this stuff before and been caught, even before the latest accusation.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:47 PM
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14. Ritter Had First-Hand Information
He was part of the UN Weapons inspection team in Iraq and knew all the nuts and bolts that made his criticisms both highly credible and dangerous. Assange is the messanger...the information came to him not visa versa. I previously mentioned the similarity in the charges, but not in the people involved. Assange is no Scott Ritter. If he disappears another Wikileaks will arise...there was only one Scott Ritter...and still is. A true American hero.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 11:04 PM
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21. He had not been there for 4 years - so his information was 4 years old
He had also said the exact opposite in the late 1990s, after the inspectors were out when he was angry at Clinton. The fact that he was ultimately wrong does not change that, in his case, there was reason to be skeptical.

The charges against him in PA and NY do not seem to have been made up - but only a trial will determine if he is guilty.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:50 PM
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15. What if you are a woman?
Do they try to get every guy you ever made a mistake with to testify that you are a slut and took money for it even if you didn't? I wonder. Of course you could always retaliate and say you were raped by said accuser and that would neutralize the situation, maybe. It just seems to be such dirty business all around.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:50 PM
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16. Ritter broke another rule: don't masturbate on a webcam for a 15-year old girl.
IF you do, and you have the potential to embarrass the Government, it will very likely be used against you.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:51 PM
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17. Loose zips sink ships.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 10:46 PM
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20. Yep..keep the sexy stuff P R I V A T E
Edited on Sat Dec-18-10 10:47 PM by SoCalDem
No photos
no "diaries"
no videos
no skype
no facebook
and not even "bragging" to friends..

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