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Archae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 04:40 PM Original message |
I know Karl Marx was an idiot, but was he a... ? |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. You're gonna have a lot of Marxist DUers pissed at you for your subject line. |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 04:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. I'd like to see you develop more on this thesis of yours |
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 06:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
22. and when the remaining capitalist power is terrified of the Soviet Union |
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Democracyinkind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 05:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. He believed that the social question would trump the national one. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 06:39 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Because Marx is the great Satan, see OP headline |
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FamousBlueRaincoat (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 09:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
33. they teach bakunin and kropotkin in college? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 09:19 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Political Science, especially Introduction to Political Systems |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 11:36 PM Response to Reply #37 |
50. I read Marx and Kropotkin and Bakhunin for my Poli Sci degree. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 12:17 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Well let's just say when you start comparing |
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FamousBlueRaincoat (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 02:54 PM Response to Reply #50 |
77. interesting |
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Democracyinkind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 06:18 AM Response to Reply #33 |
68. I studied in Europe, but my comment was derived from my second-hand knowledge of American curricula. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 02:55 PM Response to Reply #68 |
78. Trust me reading it in English or SPANISH |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 05:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
20. Or....just pleased to see Marx being discussed on DU |
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panzerfaust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 08:07 AM Response to Reply #20 |
73. Go Karl |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 06:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
21. His description of capitalism was spot on |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 07:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
28. Yeah, all that wealth redistribution.......... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 02:24 AM Response to Reply #28 |
59. It's no accident that in the 20 years since ICBMs were driven past Marx's picture thrice a year... |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 12:19 PM Response to Reply #59 |
76. I'm glad I'm not the only one to notice that....... |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 09:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
36. Typical Marxist. :-) |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 09:21 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. I am sure Marx would tell you that the USSR was NOT |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 10:12 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. While there is limited distribution of wealth, Norway is NOT collectivist, |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 10:19 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Yep, utopias do |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 11:15 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. The United States has a system that allows any individual to |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 11:17 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. No we don't |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 05:26 AM Response to Reply #44 |
65. Uhh, allows individuals to build companies that neutralize the power of monopolies?? Wha'?? |
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xor (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 06:13 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Individuals and small entities can knock out large powers when they have innovative ideas |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-10 04:24 AM Response to Reply #66 |
85. Hehe... I like the way you're thinking—but, |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #65 |
79. Add Smith who also said that this had to be |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 11:19 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. If the books are so great, why aren't you using the principles laid out |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 11:20 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. I want a living wage in the US |
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Democracyinkind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 06:14 AM Response to Reply #46 |
67. Another one pretending that Marx's writings are some kind of manual. |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 06:39 AM Response to Reply #36 |
71. You sure have it backwards. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 03:00 PM Response to Reply #71 |
81. Read the rest of the exchange |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 11:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
48. He accurately described the failures of capitalism |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-10 01:48 PM Response to Reply #48 |
89. agreed. He researched, studied, and wrote a lot |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 01:27 AM Response to Reply #1 |
56. read his family letters. he may have been a shitty family man in many |
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existentialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
2. I believe that that is made up, but Marx was clearly |
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Ramulux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. You can disagree with Karl Marx |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 04:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. It was not his predictions, but his analyses that make him a genius |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 04:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Marx's predictions on capitalism are almost not predictions. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 05:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Indeed, Marx did not make "predictions" |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 05:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. I agree. His predictions were shit but his socioecomic analysis is still amazing. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 05:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. His ideas on the business cycle are still used by mainstream economists today. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
4. Karl Marx died in 1883 and the Church Of Satan started in 1969. |
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rainy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
7. He was not an idiot. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
9. The stupid, it BURNS!!! |
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Archae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 05:07 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. I puttered around that web site a little. |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 07:59 PM Response to Reply #9 |
29. amazing, isn't it. |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
12. How on earth was the foremost capitalist revolutionary an "idiot?" |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 09:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
40. unfortunately... |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
14. Considering that most of the concentrated wealth in the world |
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ngant17 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
16. Arguments are weak, simplistic and easily dismissed |
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chaska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
17. Well, that's a first. Only an idiot would call Karl Marx an idiot. |
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dimbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 12:41 AM Response to Reply #17 |
52. Alternate possibility: a person who really really really hates |
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Puregonzo1188 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
18. Well, I don't think Karl Marx was an idiot so I suppose I'm not the person to ask if he was a |
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edbermac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
23. I don't know if he was a Satanist, but I loved him in Duck Soup. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
24. He was not a satanist |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
26. Even many pro-business economists will tell you that Marx was not an idiot. and neither was he a |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
27. Kinda hard for an atheist to be a member of the "Church of Satan," I'd say... |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
30. Is the writer a satirist? |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
31. this is one of the most idiotic posts i've ever read, that's for sure. |
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Scruffy1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:23 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Yep, been seeing a lot of these lately from non-readers |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
34. You might find this show amsuing and informative: |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
35. You're just pissed 'cause you don't understand Das Kapital, aren't you? |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
39. Biblical reference - you did know that right? |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
41. Idiot? |
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liam_laddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
49. Marx the historian |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 12:50 AM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Marx: 'The North American Civil War' 25 October 1861 |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
53. This so-called "Judeo-Christian Apologetics" website you posted is total BS..... |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 02:04 AM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Anything titled "Judeo-Christian" should set of alarms. |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 02:26 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. No kidding.... |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 03:54 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Ach! I took a look. |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 04:25 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. These lunatics don't give up...... |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 01:17 AM Response to Original message |
55. Marx was no satanist, and no idiot. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 01:44 AM Response to Original message |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 02:30 AM Response to Original message |
61. How is Marx an idiot? |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 04:12 AM Response to Original message |
63. Um... |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 06:29 AM Response to Reply #63 |
70. Ha! |
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Democracyinkind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 06:25 AM Response to Original message |
69. Blaming Karl Marx for the the misdeeds of the USSR is like blaming John Locke for My Lai. |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #69 |
83. Are you Marxist? |
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Democracyinkind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-10 01:36 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. Nah. I wouldn't even know what "Marxist" means nowadays... |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 06:43 AM Response to Original message |
72. What I want know is why are you on Pat Robertson's personal email list to get this crap? |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 05:44 PM Response to Reply #72 |
84. The OP has long abandoned the thread, but an interesting |
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retread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
74. Again I am astounded by what has slithered in under the flaps of DU's "big tent"!! n/t |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
75. Perhaps we should talk about why red-baiting is so prevalent amongst democrats? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #75 |
82. Go further back |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
80. Marx could not have been a "Satanist", because he did not believe in the spiritual! |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-10 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
87. an idiot? |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-10 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
88. Marx was hardly an idiot. To the contrary, because |
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