Egypt crisis: Mubarak's son Gamal among party leaders to resign, state TV says

[sabrina 1]

Anti-government protesters rally Saturday in front of army tanks near Cairo's Tahrir Square.


http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/05/egypt-crisis-gas-pipeline-ablaze-in-suspected-terror-attack/"]Egypt crisis: Mubarak's son Gamal among party leaders to resign, state TV says

New glimpses emerged Saturday into the sensitive diplomatic strategy the Obama administration is using to help bring about a transition in which Mubarak himself helps to dismantle his own power structure.

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, speaking at the Munich Security Conference, urged support for the man Mubarak named to carry out that
transition, Vice President Omar Suleiman.

"There are forces in at work in any society," Clinton said, "in particular in one that is facing these kinds of challenges, who will try to derail or overtake the process to pursue their own specific agenda, which is why I think it's important to support the transition process announced by the Egyptian government actually headed by now-Vice President Omar Suleiman."

So, the people have accomplished the deconstruction of Mubarak's party. The U.S. is, once again, manipulating things to get someone who will benefit THEIR interests. And that someone appears to be a torturer.

Nice ... I hope the people who have now have the momentum on their side, will CHOOSE THEIR OWN LEADERS. Exchanging one torturer for another, doesn't seem like 'winning' anything.

Elections should be held as soon as possible and the PEOPLE should choose who runs and who wins.

The report of the resignations comes from Egypt's State TV, so it can be taken with a grain of salt unless they were given a green light by the U.S. to make that announcement.

Egytian joke about their State TV:

@rezo007
waleed
RT @afarrag #bey2ollak : There are three levels of liars: liars, damn good liars, and the Egyptian television. #Jan25 #Egypt

However, CNN seems to think it is legitimate, for what that is worth.

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1. Things are very fragile right now.... I wish someone with a human rights

track record would be able to step in......

[sabrina 1]

2. Well, there is Elbaradei.

And I can't understand why the U.S. is once again, interfering in the business of Egypt. Less than two weeks ago they were still supporting the dictator Mubarak. That certainly was not in the interests of the Egyptian people, who are now the primary concern in this story. We are not! We have not fought and died to remove this government. They have, against all odds, including against the wishes of the U.S.

It is the height of arrogance for the U.S. to be negotiating behind the backs of the Egyptian people who have already expressed their opinion of Mubarak's torturer and rejected him as a leader, naturally. This is what they are trying to get rid of.

I hope they insist on emergency elections and do what Tunisia did, get rid of anyone who was a part of the Mubarak government and start from scratch. They have plenty of people who are capable of running that country. I just wish our country would stay out of their business.

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3. U.S. backs torturer ~ I'm no longer even surprised:

@JordanSekulow
Jordan Sekulow
Obama Backs Suleiman-Led Transition http://nyti.ms/eKnDUf #Egypt | he's best realistic option

'Best realistic option'? For whom? They are still ignoring the Egyptian people.

[Turborama]

4. I've heard them talking about it on AJE a lot but there's nothing on their website...

...yet: http://english.aljazeera.net/

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5. U.S. has been cultivating Soleiman for a long time, years in fact.

The fact that Mubarak named him as his 'interim' successor shows that the U.S. has been negotiating with him. Maybe making promises to prevent any prosecutions of him or his government or their agents.

The Wikileaks Egypt cables show that the U.S. were thinking about Mubarak's successor for years and were talking to Suleiman about that subject as long as 2005 (I'm going to put up an OP on this).

He is virulently anti-Musli Brotherhood and would 'crack down' on them should he get into office. Same old brutality and no doubt, he's experienced at it, torture routine.

If this happens, it would make a mockery of the People of Egypt's fight to rid themselves of a tyrant. And it shows clearly the cynical ploy of the U.S. pretending now to accept the 'will of the people' by installing their own, criminal, torturer. It would make a mockery of the Revolution if this were to be allowed to happen.

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6. Unless we're willing to militarily overthrow Mubarak's regime

The 'cynical ploy' is probably the best we can do even if we're trying to respect the wishes of the Egyptian people, unfortunately. The problem is Mubarak's regime already has all the weapons/aid we've already given him, so he can hold out for some time (like Hussein did) even if we cut our aid, impose sanctions, and denounce him in public.

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7. It isn't up to us. Egypt doesn't belong to the U.S.

The people have already said they do not want Suleiman and if Mubarak leaves and Suleiman is installed, I do not think that will end the protests.

The same was tried in Tunisia, but the people refused anyone associated with the ousted dictator. Predictions are that Egypt will have a similar result.

There are many people in Egypt, political parties who were cheated out of elections for so long, who can run without interference and I believe that is the goal of the people. They haven't done this to end up with more of the same.

[Turborama]

8. "Obama Backs Suleiman-Led Transition"

In LBN: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4722660

Words fail...

[sabrina 1]

9. Absolutely shameful. They are not even hiding it anymore.

They speak as though Egypt belonged to them.

This is not the change I supported.