Fox News "Ends the Clinton Era ban on Gays"

[brettdale]

Uhm was dont ask dont tell bought in by clinton??????????

www.foxnews.com

[WilliamPitt]

1. Yes.

[JoePhilly]

7. The GOP wanted to be able to thorw out anyone suspected of being gay.

Clinton gave gays who wanted to serve a loop-hole.

Its was terrible, but better than what the GOP wanted to do, which was make being gay illegal.

Clinton's compromise allowed gays to stay in the military, and for many, many, many heterosexual soldiers, they got to meet gay soldiers, even if they all had to remain quiet about it.

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. Just to be clear the GOP wanted to continue a policy

in the books for over 100 years. They didn't want to start shit...

[JoePhilly]

20. In response I would suggest then that ...

the GOP wanted to STOP shit.

The GOP wanted to be able to be able to throw out gays for "misconduct", by using being gay as the "misconduct".

DADT limited their ability to do so. At least that was the intent.

And as we saw today, most in the GOP would make being gay a reason for discharge given the chance.

[Petrus Romanus]

2. DADT was a Clinton policy, and one that was progressive for its time.

Before DADT, anti-gay witch hunts were perfectly legal. It's a policy whose time has long since passed, and its repeal is welcome.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

11. Witch hunts were legal after, too.

See: translators, e.g.

[karynnj]

22. You can see that just removing the ban on gays was impossible - by looking at the Boxer amend't

That was the most progressive position - it allowed the President the ability to implement DADT, but did not codify the policy as law. Many people in favor of this wanted to completely remove the ban and that was offered as a compromise. It failed - there simply were not enough Senators - and that was when we often needed just 50.

Opinions changed greatly since then.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. Yes, he wanted to end the ban

but he was convinced by his Army Chief Of Staff, one Colin Powell, that DADT was a good compromise... and truth be told, in 1992 it was.

[davidinalameda]

9. he wasn't convinced

he was railroaded

it was either DADT or nothing

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. I am being diplomatic

and at the time it WAS a good policy.

Before that people served jail time... a few long terms.

[MrScorpio]

4. It's a divide and conquer tactic, they're trying to get a party started.

Dem's are supposed to be pissing all over each other by now.

[cherokeeprogressive]

5. It might not have been "brought in" by President Clinton, but it was signed by him. n/t

[blogslut]

6. Yes

But it's adorable the way Fox innocently points it out.

[DURHAM D]

15. Wrong -Sam Nunn and Colin Powell brought this in and

lied to everyone about how DADT would be used/applied.

[terrya]

8. Fuck what those assholes has to say.

[Initech]

12. [phone]

[doc03]

14. Fuck Fox, when the tax bill passed Fox radio news

said Congress extended the Bush tax cuts, a major defeat for Nancy Pelosi that wanted to raise everyone's taxes.

[MrModerate]

16. In their pavlovian response that "everything dems do is wrong" . . .

Accidently have come down on the side of gay rights. Sometimes I wonder how they keep their tongues in their heads given how they step on them so much.

[notesdev]

17. Course it came from Clinton

that was his intern policy

[madinmaryland]

18. The Clenis. Fox still foxating on the Clenis after all these years.

[rfranklin]

19. Fox is promoting the gay agenda...

they probably have gay sex right in the studios.

[karynnj]

21. DADT was, but it replaced a ban on gays, even if completely in the closet being in the military

It was bad policy and discriminatory, but it was a compromise from the earlier position.

[lynne]

23. Most definitely. As was DOMA -

- and we haven't been able to get rid of that yet.