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Still a Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:07 PM Original message |
Would you agree to a repeal of DADT in exchange for a ban on gays in the military? |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
1. Not only that, but Congress had the votes to override Clinton's veto. |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
2. In hindsight, leaving the old policy in place would have been better |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. They were about to pass a statute codifying the ban |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. I have never seen nor heard evidence that they had a veto proof majority |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Sam Nunn the Democratic chairman of the Armed Services Committee was leading the charge |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 10:47 PM Response to Reply #9 |
30. you are wrong |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 12:17 AM Response to Reply #9 |
36. Sorry, but you're incorrect |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. It wouldn't have happened until pretty recently anyway, though |
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Autumn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
3. Yeah, but that wouldn't be |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
4. I agree |
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Still a Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Yep - conservatives hated DADT |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 11:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
32. It's hard to believe it's been 17 years since DADT went into effect |
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Change Happens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
6. Yes... |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
8. But you don't understand... All past actions that are not 100% liberal are bad. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. I don't ever use the sarcasm tag |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. It's not the administrators that get it wrong. nt |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
11. A rec for accuracy and factual, rationale information |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:38 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. only if you substitute "creation" for "repeal" |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
14. How about veto the ban on gays? |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
15. If Congress was ready to ban gays, Bill should have let them try it. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. gheez - could you be more wrong? |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:56 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Enlightening, but... |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 09:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. circle think much ? |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 09:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. "Bye". |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 09:39 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. I agree. DADT was a ban on gays but just didnt appear like it. The decision at the time should have |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 10:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. A Democratic Congress had veto proof majorities to institute an outright ban |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 10:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Yes, but there would have likely been constitutional challenges |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 10:33 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. there were several challenges to DADT |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 11:38 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. We will never really know. Those challenges were brought forward |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 11:56 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. the case law was pretty clear |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 12:06 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. You make some very good points, DSC. |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
20. The year is 2010 |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
23. I just think it's hilarious that a large chunk of the people who HATE Clinton for being a pragmatist |
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liberalmuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
25. I will not hate on Clinton. OR Obama. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 10:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. More like sweeping elephant shit under a thin rug. nt |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
31. I was in the military at the time... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
37. There was going to be no outright ban |
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