The "Democrats" who voted against the Dream Act

[marmar]

Sens. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.), Mark Pryor (D-Ark.), Jon Tester (D-Mt.), Max Baucus (D-Mt.) and Kay Hagan (D-N.C.) :thumbsdown:


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/18/dream-act-vote-senate_n_798631.html

[AspenRose]

1. They hate children and don't want to invest in the future of America.

Period.

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. Put them on a map

and then cross post with history of cheap labor.

Yes that includes Montana believe it or not. But Arkansas and North Carolina... don't get me started on the history.

Oh and Tyson foods does come to mind in at least one case, I suspect there is something about that.

[burrowowl]

7. AMEN!

The sleezeballs need prodding!

[proud2BlibKansan]

3. I feel certain that Ben Nelson was heavily lobbied by anti-immigration folks in NE

Their movement has grown considerably in the last year or so.

[underpants]

4. MONTANA? really? Hagan voted against it because of Smithfield packing

they fear the ilegals orgainzing

[struggle4progress]

11. I can't see how it would affect labor organizing at all

[underpants]

16. They don't organize if they are illegal even though they can

they also don't sue or call OSHA and they take their wages as they are told - no fuss because the employer CAN call INS on them.

Anything that gets closer to what should be an open system of either naturalization or documenting their presence is harmful to employers like Smithfield, Tyson, and any agriculture operation - THEY are the ones stopping anything from happening.

[struggle4progress]

17. DREAM opens a path for veterans and graduates, neither group likely packers

[madmax]

13. I may be wrong but, a while back I believe

I read that NC is 'the' largest employers of undocumented workers.

Could be just another brain glitch. I seriously can't keep up with so much information. :( I'll try harder :P

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. No you did not read wrong

in Mexico the Feds went after Tyson for subcontracting to Polleors to get the workers north.

Something 'bout human trafficking

http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/type,ANNUALREPORT,,MEX,4c1883dac,0.html

Though this UNHCR deals with traffic from outside, there is also prosecution of those working for American companies. Understand, that some of these sleeze balls have tried to buy the authorities and at times gone to the NAFTA court.

The Mexican Government has been running campaigns trying to convince people that El Norte is not that golden.

[madmax]

18. Thanks nadin

I've been quiet lately but, when nadin posts - madmax reads :)

[stray cat]

5. Should foreign students who get a phd have the option for immediate citizenship?

I am in favor of the dream act. However I wonder if progressives really want competition from the best and brightest of other countries?

[struggle4progress]

10. That's a mischaracterization of the DREAM Act

[rhett o rick]

12. You seem to manage to take a swipe at progressives in each of your posts.

I think you just like to stir up trouble.

[patrice]

20. I was on the OFA phone banks: It's NOT immediate citizenship. If they complete

either one of the requirements, their presence in this country is made legal and THEN they can do the naturalization process for citizenship.

[Johonny]

22. foreign students are leaving the US back to their countries these days

Why stay in the US the land of no jobs, when you can go back to China as a highly educated professional. So more and more they are going back. We are training the worlds engineers and scientists, but mostly they aren't ending up Americans. That ain't a good thing.

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. If those PhDs grew up in the US

as the ACT states, sure.

Mind you most foreign students are LEAVING the US. It is NO LONGER the land of opportunity. That has moved EAST.

[Raine]

6. Repulsive and disgusting but if it wasn't

them they would've found others to take their place, this is a good issue to keep going for both sides ... win win for them. x(

[northoftheborder]

8. Reason why some voted against the DREAM act:

Because it was to be funded by closing loopholes in rules concerning foreign corporations' payment of taxes. Can't let those poor corporations suffer. AARRGGHH.

[patrice]

21. Right! Reps actually REALLY like this one & will try to claim it as their own in the next

Congress, so Dems will have to take the high road & not fight it, even though Reps are going to try to take credit for it, IMO.

[JoePhilly]

9. Sent Kay some hate email just 2 minutes ago.

I should have called her LIDDY Hagen, but that thought hit me after I sent it.

[TheKentuckian]

15. Ha! The "Liddy" rip would have been gold!

I may borrow the sentiment.

[UTUSN]

19. K&R #17 and the 3 Rethugs who voted FOR:

**********QUOTE*********(from CBS)**********

Three Republicans - Indiana's Dick Lugar, Utah's Bob Bennett and Alaska's Lisa Murkowski - were among the yes votes. Five Democrats voted no: Max Baucus and John Tester of Montana, Kay Hagan of North Carolina, Ben Nelson of Nebraska, and Mark Pryor of Arkansas. The bill had already passed the House and is supported by President Obama.

************UNQUOTE********

[Hell Hath No Fury]

24. Shame on therm all --

They will be looked back at the same as the idiots who voted against votes for women.