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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 04:43 PM
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Hallucinogens Legally Sold as 'Bath Salts' a New Threat
http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20110205/hl_hsn/hallucinogenslegallysoldasbathsaltsanewthreat

Hallucinogens Legally Sold as 'Bath Salts' a New Threat

By Amanda Gardner
HealthDay Reporter – Fri Feb 4, 11:48 pm ET

FRIDAY, Feb. 4 (HealthDay News) -- An influx of highly hallucinogenic, potentially lethal but -- in most states -- fully legal drugs sold as "bath salts" has law enforcement and drug abuse experts very concerned.
....

"The $20)"salts" come with gentle-sounding names like Ivory Wave and Vanilla Sky and are typically snorted, smoked, injected and even mixed with water as a beverage.

"If you take the very worst of some of the other drugs -- LSD and Ecstasy with their hallucinogenic-delusional type properties, PCP with extreme agitation, superhuman strength and combativeness, as well as the stimulant properties of cocaine and meth -- if you take all the worst of those and put them all together this is what you get. It's ugly," added Ryan, who recounted some harrowing stories.

"The psychosis is impressive," he said....One man barricaded himself in an attic with a rifle, Ryan said, vowing to "kill the monsters before they kill me," while another user vowed to remove their own liver with a mechanical pencil.

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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 04:45 PM
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1. Predator Drones are a threat.
Not this shit.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 04:51 PM
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2. what I find upsetting is people will do anything to get high
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 04:59 PM
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3. That's just human nature
There is no way any government is going to be able to stay ahead of the game. By the time any substance can be banned, chemists can produce variants that do the same thing (or close enough to sell it) that aren't covered by the ban.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 05:01 PM
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4. young kids will experiment with anything
I was young once and I did,
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 05:49 PM
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6. Me too, but I didn't.
Still don't see the thrill. Maybe because I can associate the aftermath with the supposed high and skip the whole experience as not worth it.
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Leftist Agitator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 08:35 PM
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13. you can thank DARE or other propaganda for that.
Once you know you've been lied to, the floodgates open
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ironrooster Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 05:46 PM
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5. read: law enforcement "needs more $$"
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 06:19 PM
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7. war on bath salts
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 06:22 PM
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8. Threat to what?
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 06:24 PM
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9. Already banned in Florida.
Temporarily, but will probably be permanent in the near future.
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LuvNewcastle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 06:49 PM
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10. This is what happens when you ban certain plants.
People invent meth and hallucinogenic bath salts. People were drinking wood alcohol and bathtub gin during Prohibition simply because they didn't have a reliable supply of beer, wine, or liquor. I'm not saying that legalization of drugs would completely stop people from sniffing glue or making toxic concoctions in their kitchens, but I think that sort of thing would not be near the problem it is today.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 06:51 PM
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11. They re only a "threat" to the imbeciles who use them for anything but bath salts
Edited on Tue Feb-08-11 06:52 PM by cleanhippie
In fact, I see them as part of the natural selection process.

Are you a proponent of banning them?
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 10:05 PM
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18. Yes I am a proponent of banning them
They are not bath salts. They are drugs intentionally designed to be analogs of known existing drugs so they would be legal. They label them as bath salts so they can sell them at gas stations amd convenience stores.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 11:22 PM
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20. If they were labled as drugs with appropriate warning labels, would you be ok with that?
Is it ALL drugs you want to ban, or just these "bath salts"? (I agree with you on the labeling, its idiotic)

Why would you want to prevent someone from taking something that does not affect anyone but the user?
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 06:52 PM
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12. Maybe this is an explanation for Sarah Palin's tweets.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 08:41 PM
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14. They have turned the scaremongering volume control to a brazillion and broken off the knob..
If you take the very worst of some of the other drugs -- LSD and Ecstasy with their hallucinogenic-delusional type properties, PCP with extreme agitation, superhuman strength and combativeness, as well as the stimulant properties of cocaine and meth -- if you take all the worst of those and put them all together this is what
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 10:11 PM
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19. +1
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 08:41 PM
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15. Dupe.. Self delete..
Edited on Tue Feb-08-11 08:43 PM by Fumesucker
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 09:19 PM
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16. LSD and Ecstasy should be legal so people wouldn't have to mess
around with other crap, same with mescaline and peyote and mushrooms and pot.

But of course instead we will outlaw whatever the fuck this shit is and then it is on to the next...
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 09:55 PM
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17. You can't ban "stupid"
People who are going to do stupid things to themselves will do so regardless any law on the books. No one needs permission to do stupid things.
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