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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:25 PM
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Jon Kyl (R-AZ): DADT repeal "could disrupt the unit cohesion, cost lives. That means a lot to me."
December 19, 2010 09:00 AM
Kyl warns 'don't ask, don't tell' repeal could cost lives

By David

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/kyl-warns-dont-ask-dont-tell-repeal-could-co



The Senate has passed a law repealing the military's gay ban but one Republican leader is not letting the issue drop.

Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl (R-AZ) said Sunday that the repeal of "don't ask, don't tell" could actually "cost lives" by disrupting combat units.

"From a constitutional stand point, this is not a constitutional right or a constitutional issue as was the issue of racial segregation," Kyl told Fox News' Chris Wallace.

"I frankly have to follow the lead of people like the commandant of the Marine Corps, like my colleague John McCain, who say when it comes especially to the small units who do the fighting on the ground, that the US Marine Corps, the Army combat troops, who according to the survey taken by the pentagon were 60 percent opposed to this," Kyl continued.

"It could disrupt the unit cohesion. As the commandant said, cost lives. That means a lot to me," he said.

The Senate minority whip brushed off the similarities between "don't ask, don't tell" repeal and racial integration in the military.

"With regard to the US military, itself, it's got one function. That is to fight and fight well. And maybe to die. And the people who are responsible for that need to make a judgment about whether this will inhibit their ability to carry out that ultimate job that we ask them to do," he insisted.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:27 PM
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1. At least McCain can say he served
I don't recall Kyl doing that....
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:40 PM
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5. No, he didn't serve, at least according to all his online bios.
He graduated from college in 1964, just when the VN war was heating up. I'm betting he pulled a Cheney, lots of deferments.

I'm waiting for any of the bigots to come up with any examples of a unit falling apart because gays or lesbians were assigned. I know, don't hold my breath.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 04:04 PM
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10. Well I expect a few one sided conversations
like the one I actually had with one of my old timers... but there will be far less than even the service expects from the experience of other militaries.

What makes me smile is when people who've never served use terms like unit cohesion... like they know what they really mean.

Want to send it spiraling down the drain... have a witch hunt.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 04:53 PM
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12. Yup.
That's the only time I ever experience a unit turning on itself. During a hunt you were a victim, a fink or a tap dancer. The drill was strictly CYA.
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:42 PM
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6. I'd bet Mc5planes getting away with multiple crashes and receiving
the kid glove treatment in spite of it did more to disrupt unit cohesion than any gay man ever could. Nepotism trumping incompetence put plenty of McHomophobe's comrades in danger but they kept putting him into planes because of his last name.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 04:03 PM
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8. There is that of course
and being a POW is no joke, but he got some shall we say help from having some really competent relatives. I can't say Captain McCain was competent.

There is a reason he went into politics, in-spite of his famous relatives he did reach a glass ceiling and would never screen for one star.

But at least he can say he understands the terms unit cohesion... Kyl, on the other hand, just nice words.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:32 PM
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2. How did Kyl vote when it came to funding the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? Was he worried about
Edited on Sun Dec-19-10 03:33 PM by BrklynLiberal
the lives of the soldiers then?

Did he support better helmets, jackets and tanks that would resist IEDs????????

I would not want to bet that his "support of the soldiers" has been so consistent.

The man is an ignorant repuke...but that is redundant, isn't it?

It makes my stomach ache to think that THIS quality of person can be in Congress these days.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:33 PM
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3. he's an obnoxious fart, a partisan twit.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:36 PM
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4. The rank and file grunts were asked, and said it didn't matter a bit
It's not like anybody much thinks about seduction when he's under fire. He's only thinking about getting himself and his buddies out alive.

I guess that is something the slow witted Kyl will never understand.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 04:02 PM
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7. Unit cohesion...
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 04:03 PM
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9. Cheney you, vile kyl.
You are a maggot.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 04:16 PM
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11. When did he serve, and in what branch? My memory is failing me on this.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 04:57 PM
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13. Oh, yawn. That's what was said about Black soliders in the 60's and women soliders in the 70's...
Edited on Sun Dec-19-10 05:03 PM by rocktivity
:boring:
roctivity
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